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Ceohai
03-13-2012, 07:18 PM
Full Game Name: Guild Wars 2
Edition Name: Collector's Edition
Platform(s): PC
Region(s): Unknown
Publisher: NCSoft
Release Date: Unknown
Price (RRP): $149.99 USD / £129.99
Bar Code: Unknown
Package Description:
Content Description:
A copy of Guild Wars 2 plus
Physical bonuses:
10-inch Rytlock figurine
112 page Making of Guild Wars 2 book
Best of Guild Wars 2 Soundtrack CD
Art Portfolio and Five Art Prints
Custom Frame
Digital bonuses:
Summon Mistfire Wolf Elite Skill
This unique elite skill allows the player to summon a temporary Mistfire Wolf pet for use in combat.
Miniature Rytlock
Chalice of Glory
Tome of Influence
Golem Banker
Link(s) to source(s): https://buy.guildwars2.com/collectors-edition
Other Info/Pics:
https://d22a1xqbhtolut.cloudfront.net/img/prepurchase/collectors-items.2552773223.1.jpg

Based on the picture it appears to be packaged in a nice metal box, and the game disc may be in a sleeve rather than a DVD case.

So far the only site that has it listed is NCSoft, and pre-orders start on April 10th.

narg
03-13-2012, 09:26 PM
hell yeah! whos with me!!

http://pc.ign.com/articles/122/1220643p1.html

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/122/1220643/gw2_collectors_edition_content__en-eu__1331658159.jpg

price (supposedly) 150$ or £150

vhal_x
03-13-2012, 09:42 PM
Is the guild wars site the only place to preorder? Also, I assume you have to pay up front on that site, considering it says "pre-purchase" ? xx

thefunk007
03-13-2012, 10:15 PM
£130 for UK customers!

Ouch!!!!

vhal_x
03-13-2012, 10:17 PM
£130!? Why do we always get shafted by the currency conversion? $150 quite CLEARLY is not £130 :/ xx

Letrico
03-13-2012, 10:19 PM
I don't know but it seems like it will be the 2nd KoA Signature Edition. Gonna preorder it asap.

vhal_x
03-13-2012, 10:23 PM
Same here, is it available for any UK people yet? xx

Letrico
03-13-2012, 10:24 PM
Well it will only be available on 10th April so I think no one can break that street date since there might be more stuff =D

vhal_x
03-13-2012, 10:27 PM
Hopefully you don't have to pay in advance :haha: xx

Letrico
03-13-2012, 10:29 PM
hha hopefully it will be available in Australia retailers. I dont wanna see my stuff get destroyed during international shipping again T_T

.Z.
03-30-2012, 08:13 AM
Wiki has published a list of retailers for pre-purchase. In the UK it looks like Zavvi are getting the CE exclusive :banghead: I think I'll be sitting tight and waiting for the inevitable price drop.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/User:Stephane_Lo_Presti/GW2_prepurchase_retailers_list

vhal_x
03-30-2012, 08:29 AM
Wait, so if it's prepurchase at Zavvi, does that mean you just pay on release :drool:!? xx

vhal_x
03-30-2012, 08:32 AM
Wait, just realised you still will :( It's saying the the release date is the 10th xx

jugolicious
03-30-2012, 08:47 AM
I guess this edition won't be as exclusive as I thought =/

vhal_x
03-30-2012, 08:48 AM
Yeah, it's available pretty much everywhere - my only saving grace is that, because Zavvi has it, it might not sell out as fast, so I may still have hope of getting it xx

jugolicious
03-30-2012, 08:55 AM
Vhal, seems like you end up getting everything, so no worries ;)

vhal_x
03-30-2012, 08:58 AM
Haha, except the KoA Signature :( Missing out on that one will haunt me forever haha xx

jugolicious
03-30-2012, 09:01 AM
it is okay

to be honest, i dont even like that edition that much. i dont like any edition that doesn't have one special packaging for the whole ce =( I don't like how everything was separate for this edition....

vhal_x
03-30-2012, 09:03 AM
Well if you ever sell it, you know who wants first refusal ;)

Yeah I agree, especially for the price it was, it should have come with a fancy box to store it all in, or something - instead of just seperate items xx

jugolicious
03-30-2012, 09:03 AM
haha, i actually dont have this edition vhal! i did buy two for other members.

vhal_x
03-30-2012, 09:05 AM
Haha, whoops! Ah well, yeah I'm kinda losing faith in ever tracking down one for myself, all the ones that ended up on ebay were for ridiculous prices :haha: xx

jugolicious
03-30-2012, 09:07 AM
it is okay, save your money!

davidw
03-30-2012, 10:39 AM
still looking forward to this but don't know if i'm actually gonna go for it - £130 is a lot - i've only ever paid that a few times for something really special..

vhal_x
03-30-2012, 10:45 AM
I've not seen it anywhere (except here) a price for UK customers, so how do you know it is actually £130?

It should be £90 (if you convert from USD) xx

Letrico
03-30-2012, 11:12 AM
I've not seen it anywhere (except here) a price for UK customers, so how do you know it is actually £130?

It should be £90 (if you convert from USD) xx

its written in their website i think. whops seems like it's gone now. It was written 120 pound last I remember when it was announced.

davidw
03-30-2012, 11:32 AM
yeah i don't remember exactly but i think like Letrico said i'm sure it was on their website somewhere

vhal_x
03-30-2012, 11:42 AM
Hopefully it's not £120, if it is, then as usual we've been fucked by the non-conversion thing :( xx

narg
03-30-2012, 02:28 PM
in my country is $150 recomendet price, I dont think it will be lower and sadly, czech eshops use one VERY nasty practice, that dolar=euro 1:1 so $150 in usa is E150 in CR, its little different when conversion to czech krone, its almost E40 different price

really sux, isnt it :/

vhal_x
04-02-2012, 07:27 PM
Zavvi has the CE listed now at £130, preorder starts April 10th, and you won't be charged until dispatch - YAY xx

jugolicious
04-02-2012, 07:47 PM
good stuff vhal, because it is sold out right now!

davidw
04-02-2012, 07:58 PM
ha ha sold out already?

vhal_x
04-02-2012, 08:37 PM
How come it's sold out, has Gamestop been selling in advance?

(If you mean sold out on Zavvi, it's just saying that until 8AM on the 10th, that's when it'll become available) xx

davidw
04-02-2012, 09:30 PM
I did mean Zavvi - thanks ;)

vhal_x
04-02-2012, 10:41 PM
Ahhh, I can't wait for this - hopefully I manage to get one preordered! xx

davidw
04-02-2012, 10:45 PM
Still not sure if I'm gonna go for this, is a lot of money but on the other hand it does look very nice - a few questions when is it actually going to be released does anyone know also will Zavvi be charging on order or on shipment?

vhal_x
04-02-2012, 10:51 PM
No official release date yet, although they have confirmed it is 2012 - but whether that is as early as June or late as December nobody knows :haha:

Also, it says on the page on Zavvi that they will charge when the order is dispatched, I screenshotted it just incase they try to pull a fast one :P xx

The Russian Bear
04-07-2012, 12:47 PM
Soooo hope its very limited. People will start paying stupid money for it on ebay :D.

Letrico
04-07-2012, 04:56 PM
This is weird look at this listing.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Guild-Wars-2-Collectors-Edition-Presale-shipping-DAY-ONE-40-OFF-/170820644805?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item27c5b42fc5

CE Presale for 90 dollar + Free FedEX shipping + first 5 gets Free razer Deathadder. Seems like a big scam to me but he got 100% good rating.

jugolicious
04-07-2012, 04:59 PM
This is weird look at this listing.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Guild-Wars-2-Collectors-Edition-Presale-shipping-DAY-ONE-40-OFF-/170820644805?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item27c5b42fc5

CE Presale for 90 dollar + Free FedEX shipping + first 5 gets Free razer Deathadder. Seems like a big scam to me but he got 100% good rating.

When something is too good to be true, it is most likely. This is a scam 100%!

I have actually seen other listings like this, and they all end up being a scam. They just take the money and run away from Ebay and Paypal lol. Of course, the buyer will be reimbursed though.

Letrico
04-07-2012, 05:01 PM
And someone actually bought it! No idea who tho. The listing doesnt make sense either. He lives in italy and he have AC 3 for ps3 and xbox for pre sale as well. Only the GW2 CE is located in US and scam like price.

jugolicious
04-07-2012, 05:03 PM
it is weird =/

and of course there are people naive enough to buy something like that =)

vhal_x
04-08-2012, 01:06 AM
Ah, I really can't wait for this, praying I get one ordered xx

Letrico
04-08-2012, 01:44 AM
Now that person is doing a scam for AC Freedom Edition

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Assassin-s-Creed-3-III-Freedom-Edition-Special-Box-PRESALE-SHIPPING-DAY-ONE-/170820838137?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item27c5b722f9

=/

The Russian Bear
04-08-2012, 02:48 AM
Now that person is doing a scam for AC Freedom Edition

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Assassin-s-Creed-3-III-Freedom-Edition-Special-Box-PRESALE-SHIPPING-DAY-ONE-/170820838137?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item27c5b722f9

=/

And 2 derps actually bought it......

vhal_x
04-10-2012, 07:57 AM
WARNING! If you preorder from Zavvi, they charge when you preorder!

They have removed the "We charge on dispatch" on the page and put a "when you order (starting 10th April) this is when you'll be charged" or something to that effect, cleverly hidden in one of the large paragraphs.


Gonna miss out on this now :( xx

Letrico
04-10-2012, 08:00 AM
probably because if you pre purchase you will given entry to all beta events until release

vhal_x
04-10-2012, 08:01 AM
Yeah, I understand that, but the Guild Wars site said if you don't want to pay up front, some places are offering the CE on preorder, rather than prepurchase, so I'd originally assumed that's what was happening with Zavvi :( xx

vhal_x
04-10-2012, 08:02 AM
It's now 8.02am and Zavvi haven't opened the listing :no: xx

davidw
04-10-2012, 08:11 AM
Yep still waiting but to be honest after all this I think I'm going to leave it £130 is a very large amount for a CE, I don't want to be sucked in to buying it cause its shiny ;) there are only some many MMO's you can play at once and one is enough - i think I'd rather spend the money upgrading the PC or waiting for some other CE's or collectables

Skylar
04-10-2012, 08:17 AM
Apparently Zavvi are having technical difficulties - hope to be ready for pre-ordering in about an hour from now :sleep:

ferrari100
04-10-2012, 08:24 AM
Im gonna grab this for sure. Will be my first mmorpg.

davidw
04-10-2012, 08:40 AM
Seems to be available now

ferrari100
04-10-2012, 08:42 AM
Yeah, got mine.
Just making sure my new i7 sony vaio will handle it ok.

:)

ferrari100
04-10-2012, 08:46 AM
found this info out regarding system requirements.
Im all good.
:)

Source:
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=684&game=Guild%20Wars%202


Guild Wars 2 System Requirements [pc]

The highly anticipated Guild Wars 2 is due out during the summer and starting April 10, players can secure their Guild Wars 2 Limited Collector's Edition, Digital Edition, or Digital Deluxe copy by pre-purchasing the entire game.

Players who pre-purchase any edition will have guaranteed entry into all beta weekend events, three-day headstart access to the final game, and Hero's Band in-game item. GW2 is looking graphical sharp especially for a MMORPG so lets take a look at the Guild Wars 2 system requirements...

Guild Wars 2 Minimum System Requirements*

OS: Windows® XP Service Pack 2 or better

CPU: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, Core i3, AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 or better

GPU: NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800, ATI Radeon™ X1800, Intel HD 3000 or better (256MB of video RAM and shader model 3.0 or better)

HDD: 25 GB hard drive space required

NET: Broadband Internet connection

OTHER: Keyboard and mouse

* Due to potential changes, GW2 system requirements may change over time, and you may be required to upgrade your current system (or obtain a new system) to continue to play the game.

vhal_x
04-10-2012, 08:50 AM
Just ordered, phoned Zavvi and they told me that you don't get charged until dispatch, the same message was in my confirmation email so if they try to charge me, I'm gonna kick up fuck! xx

ferrari100
04-10-2012, 08:52 AM
SOLD out already??

vhal_x
04-10-2012, 09:08 AM
Yep, fast as hell that was! xx

OniRyo
04-10-2012, 10:07 AM
It's available again at Zavvi.co.uk, not sure for how long!.

vhal_x
04-10-2012, 11:54 AM
Also available for preorder at Play.com now! xx

lhurgoyf
04-10-2012, 02:25 PM
I wonder if they are going to pull the bait and switch like they did with the SWTOR CE.... initial pre-order sales all sell out and then get more stock later on.

jugolicious
04-10-2012, 03:24 PM
I wonder if they are going to pull the bait and switch like they did with the SWTOR CE.... initial pre-order sales all sell out and then get more stock later on.

that's the way to get your money! haha

davidw
04-10-2012, 03:25 PM
i would imagine so - isn't that the way the whole industry (and world) works now?

jugolicious
04-10-2012, 03:34 PM
yeah, i have a feeling this is not going to be as rare as some may think it is =/

davidw
04-10-2012, 04:18 PM
it's actually funny as the collector's editions are usually the ones there are the most of - the really special rare editions are the ones hardly anyone knows about like the Dead Island Treasure Edition - the ones actually called Collectors Editions are just about the extras you get with them - there not actually rare and i don't think anyone ever says they are - companies do say limited quantities but that could mean anything really - 100k could be limited compared to millions of standard editions...

narg
04-11-2012, 04:24 PM
I dont know abou quantity, but dead island treasure ed. was offered im my country from some eshops, but for so high price, where nobody are interested, and now I saw one piece from ebay for price 2-3 times higher...

I buy yesterday two pieces of GW2CE for E120 each and was sold out in 15 minutes (I dont know, how many pieces they have for salo, but page with offer have count 71 visit customers )

davidw
04-11-2012, 04:26 PM
it seems like you can still pick this up - weird...

jugolicious
04-11-2012, 04:27 PM
Hmmm...gamestop.com has this box art up:

http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/640410b.jpg

davidw
04-11-2012, 04:28 PM
looks nice - assumed it would have to come in something large as the figure is quite big plus the tin etc...

jugolicious
04-11-2012, 04:29 PM
I hope everything comes in one big box instead of separate like the kingdoms of amalur.

davidw
04-11-2012, 04:30 PM
i'm not aware with how KoA came - how did it arrive if not in one box?

jugolicious
04-11-2012, 04:33 PM
picture from Kastano:

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3026/dscf5247u.jpg

davidw
04-11-2012, 04:34 PM
weird - and the smaller box just sits outside the other one... very odd

vhal_x
04-12-2012, 01:06 PM
Been in tears about this all morning.

Originally the page on Zavvi's site said that you would not be charged until dispatch, this was removed prior to it going up on sale, and replaced with "you'll be charged when you order" yada yada yada.

People on facebook posted that after ordering, they received a message stating that they wouldn't be charged until dispatch.

Due to the fact of me having no money to afford the payment right now, I phoned Zavvi to see which statement was correct.

The girl told me that no money would be due up front, you would just pay it all on dispatch.

I went to the bank today and I've been charged the full amount, leaving me no money to pay my bills this month.

I phoned Zavvi this morning to complain (whilst sitting outside the bank, crying :blush:) and they said, "originally we were only to charge a small amount for the sending of the keys, and everything else would be charged on dispatch, but this was causing problems with our system so we just charged the full amount up front for everybody instead"

I moaned at them, since I'd been told NO money would be taken and all they had to say was "well, you've been given wrong information then, sorry"

FUCKING IDIOTS.

So I asked if they could cancel, and return my money to me, and they said no, it's impossible to cancel now since the orders have been processed (and apparently my order is now in their warehouse :S)

Anyway. Long story short. I am fuming. I've run out of tears now, but thankfully my mum loaned me the money to cover my bills.

ARRRGGGHH.

vhal_x
04-12-2012, 05:19 PM
Did anyone else phone up Zavvi to complain? I think I made the girl I spoke to (the second one) uncomfortable because my voice was so shaky, trying to hold myself together LMAO :blush: xx

davidw
04-12-2012, 07:16 PM
oh no so sorry to hear that - hope everything has worked it's way out for you now...

narg
04-12-2012, 08:26 PM
Hi vhal_X i have bad news for you, you will need loaned more money from your mother, bcz april 27 is near! :D

vhal_x
04-12-2012, 08:28 PM
No worries narg, I've budgeted for that, it's just because this was unexpected :haha: xx

narg
04-12-2012, 10:40 PM
ok, good for you :D

davidw
04-12-2012, 11:33 PM
April 27th?

vhal_x
04-17-2012, 01:38 PM
He meant for my Risen 2 Keg Edition, David :)

Received my Guild Wars 2 Collector's Edition Pre-Purchase box today :) xx

ferrari100
04-21-2012, 05:58 PM
So anyone here who bought this gonna be online for the beta weekend next weekend?


Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

Letrico
04-21-2012, 06:10 PM
me =D. Gonna make my character same name with forum name. My universal game name.

narg
04-21-2012, 07:50 PM
me too :)

ferrari100
04-21-2012, 08:27 PM
My name on there will be blinxster, ...long story.

Its will be my first foray into the world of mmorpg's. So any advice or help would be appreciated.
Will it be possible to join forces online between us ce.org crew? Or are there server restrictions etc between territories?

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narg
04-21-2012, 10:11 PM
game servers will be different to country, where you will buy the game, I dont know if possible switch between servers, but I afraid that not :(

but with some lucky, restriction will be "world based" to europe / asia / america *cross finger*

vhal_x
04-21-2012, 11:23 PM
I'll try and get on, need to rebuild my PC though :facepalm: xx

stavie33
04-23-2012, 09:55 PM
so what's the guess so far on the US Guild Wars 2 edition posted at gamestops site? Do we think it will go up or drop? I'm probably going to pre order anyways just in case, but it's so weird how the majority of the big box CE's and other ones as well just plummet in price a few months after release, and then one day you think it will be the same for another so you don't buy it and it just skyrocket's. This is why I pick up all new CE's anyways.

Also, I am really pissed about Kingdoms of Amalur CE and how it came. The troll boxes were all in awful condition and I hated the seperate packaging. The fact that I spent $2500 makes me even angrier since no one knew at the time.

ferrari100
04-23-2012, 10:02 PM
I believe the price of these editions will be dependent on the success of the game. After next weekend there will be many reviews and perhaps many more purchases of the collectors edition. I reckon you should check out the reviews next week then make your decision.
:)

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scottcross
04-23-2012, 10:09 PM
Will any of you that played the beta let me know if its any good, I just bought a PC (after 2 years of thinking about it) and wanna try my hand at mmorpg's and wanna get some opinions before I waste any money

ferrari100
04-23-2012, 11:18 PM
Will any of you that played the beta let me know if its any good, I just bought a PC (after 2 years of thinking about it) and wanna try my hand at mmorpg's and wanna get some opinions before I waste any money.

I think a few of us will be reporting on this thread over the weekend.
:)

scottcross
04-24-2012, 06:59 AM
looking forward to it

OniRyo
04-24-2012, 08:02 AM
This collector's edition doesn't seem to be rare at all, i mean it's still being sold at Zavvi.co.uk and on their page there's being said it's ''Extremely limited''.

I got my Pre-order DVD box and the CE contains great items but i just hope this won't be the same story like Star Wars The Old Republic, where the CE was being reduced within notime to like 50 pounds.

The Russian Bear
04-25-2012, 01:24 AM
So tempted to pre-order, but experience has taught me otherwise, since every single MMO (With the exception of EVE, because its completely different) has failed to live up to its WOW killer, revolutionary MMO hype.

I eagerly await feedback from the beta testers.

vhal_x
04-25-2012, 08:07 AM
Just beware Russian, they charge you up front xx

ferrari100
04-25-2012, 01:27 PM
Just downloading software now.

Its a whopping 18gb!!

beta starts Friday, April 27, at noon PDT (GMT -7)

The Russian Bear
04-25-2012, 01:44 PM
Just beware Russian, they charge you up front xx

cheeky bast**ds :rant:

ferrari100
04-25-2012, 01:50 PM
cheeky bast**ds :rant:


In fairness they have always said its a pre-purchase and not a pre-order.

vhal_x
04-25-2012, 02:07 PM
cheeky bast**ds :rant:

In fairness they have always said its a pre-purchase and not a pre-order.

Yeah, it was originally listed saying "We won't charge you until we dispatch this item." but then on the day the pre-purchase opened, they removed it.

Long story.

The prepurchase was delayed in opening, didn't open for orders until around 8.20 am, despite it being listed as opening at 8am - so I phoned up to check before it opened when they'd be charging.

The girl on the phone told me I wouldn't be charged until release date. So, good - I thought, and as soon as the prepurchase went live, I ordered a CE copy.

Few days later, went to the bank and broke down in tears because the money had been taken from my account (money that was actually in my account to pay for my Sky bill the next day).

My mum gave me the money as a loan, I paid it in, and called up Zavvi.

The girl I spoke to this time informed me that originally, only a small part of the payment was to be taken now, and the rest upon release date, but this was causing errors in their system, so they just decided to take the full payment now. I told her that I had been told I wouldn't be charged until release and she kept saying, yes that's what the plan was originally, a small fee now, and the rest on release.

Getting a bit flustered haha, I started crying and telling her that, no, I'd been told that NO money would be taken up front, and all she could say to me was that she was sorry I'd been given wrong information.

I asked if she could cancel my order, so that I'd still have the money in my account to pay my bills, and she said no, it's impossible to cancel after the money is taken as the order had already been processed and my prepurchase box (with the download keys etc) had already been sorted out in the warehouse for me.

I've been informed now though that you can get a refund (on release) if you return the CE and the prepurchase box (with the codes) UNOPENED, to them. But only if they are unopened. But obviously, release could be God knows when away...

But, yeah. Oh well. Life goes on...

Neilikki
05-13-2012, 04:42 PM
So apparently you can order it from amazon.co.uk, lol?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Guild-Wars-Collectors-Edition-DVD/dp/B007YZ5BA8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336922446&sr=8-1

I thought it was a zavvi exclusive?

It's £20 less too.

Still not buying it.

OniRyo
05-13-2012, 05:02 PM
Extremely limited, yeah right... i got quite tricked into this. :>

vhal_x
05-13-2012, 05:05 PM
Yeah same >.<

Oh well, at least it's paid for now, so don't have to worry about paying upon release xx

OniRyo
05-13-2012, 05:11 PM
Yeah same >.<

Oh well, at least it's paid for now, so don't have to worry about paying upon release xx

Truth!. and it's not a bad Collector's Edition at all it's got quite a lot of cool things, just a bit disappointing that it is not so limited as expected, oh well!.

vhal_x
05-13-2012, 05:20 PM
Yeah, it will make a nice addition to my collection xx

lhurgoyf
06-02-2012, 10:10 PM
*** PC Collector's Edition Added to Database ***

narg
08-08-2012, 08:02 AM
hey, check this unboxing with Felicia http://youtu.be/jS85KJsw2rg kick ass!! I am so happy, that i have one, the Charr statue is awesome!

Xmo
08-08-2012, 08:40 AM
HOLY CRAP!!! I was expecting just half the size of that. No wonder it is $150 usd

narg
08-08-2012, 09:00 AM
I just hope, that Fecia does not have some special ed. for game creators members :D

vhal_x
08-08-2012, 09:30 AM
Whoa. That is way bigger than I was expecting!

Nice :D xx

ferrari100
08-08-2012, 11:51 AM
Awesome. Got mine on order from zavvi. Not sure if still available. I loved playing the beta of this.

OniRyo
08-25-2012, 11:50 AM
It's indeed very huge, i made a picture of it which is here:

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8315/p1010153fs.jpg


a bit of a comparison with the Wrath of the Lich King Collector's Edition.

eva_pro
10-09-2012, 12:04 PM
I think that the figure is awesome.

DemonATX
11-02-2012, 03:44 AM
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