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You can;t take retail sale price to do that calculation... I say this as Kickstarter is basically a "give me a a free non-interest loan and I will re-pay you with a console I will make money on". Oh and know you helped us get our company going... but no profits or stock in the company will ever be yours for it. (this is how it fells to me anyways)

Anyways there was a couple million left over at least when they were done... you could argue that they put it right back into making things better and they may have. I am just saying it feels like cheating to me and many others. I am happy there is a kickstarter to get things people really want out there but it is a place that is and will continue to breed scams and greed.

I will say Ouya was a neat idea... but I also believe it is one that will die out very soon. Biggest issue (and why they require you card I assume) is pirating is rife on Android based devices... especially one that is made to be hacked. News on it almost ceased for awhile then they launched them and news perked for a second and now nothing again (but I don't look or listen for Ouya news).


On the second point I have had Shadow Gun on my iPhone for almost 2 years now if I remember correctly (well over a year at least) and I would say you could call it "similar to Gears". But honestly it is a far cry from a console game at the end of the day. It is a very basic, yes it is pretty for a iphone/android game... when I first saw it I was pretty impressed. But now that there are handhelds like the Vita where they can actually put a console experience on there... a game with solid graphics, gameplay, (and here is the kicker) and length. IMO the only mobile games that have done this so far (with length) are the light on graphics RPGs (ther are a couple exceptions but they usually sacrifice in one way or another). Shadow Gun really is a rare entity on the mobile market, others on that graphics level are touch based games like Infinite Blade (which I disliked with a passion for some reason... was Fruit Ninja with pretty graphics).

When the mobile arena makes something comparable to Vita's Uncharted Golden Abyss then I will take it seriously in the console space.

Again this is just my opinion.