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Old 07-26-2013, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: Xbox Live Day One Subscription Steelbook

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It seems that you've fallen into some trappings of your own. Don't be mistaken that I was never aware that these are two corporate entities who make money in the end. I just didn't start playing video games in the last 10 years. Not once in my posts did I ever mention that I said Sony loves me. As a matter of fact, I don't think I even brought up Sony in this entire thread concerning Microsoft. I am fully aware of Sony's business practices and let's not forget the days of Ken Kutaragi and his apparent madness. I am addressing Microsoft and Xbox one, so please don't make any unnecessary assumptions about grouping people in this oh you hate one company, therefore you must love the other because you think that's the only thing fueling a person's ideology if they're unhappy with certain corporate business practices. If Sony messes up for one console iteration, I will address them in their entirety and vice versa with what ever is happening in the current video game industry.

To blanket companies as corporations whose sole and only purpose is to make money because they don't have some love or respect for the community that continually supports them is a stupid notion as well. You're basically telling me that all companies exist to make a buck and no company right now in the industry gives two shits about their fan base is a load of bull and a complete disservice to the men and women in those respective companies who enjoy gaming for what it is. It's not farfetched to believe that someone can enjoy making money and still be passionate at what they do. Not everyone has lost sight of their goals, dreams and pursuits in lieu of the almighty dollar. So, when you go and buy your limitations and import your expensive trinkets, you know for a fact that you're just a cash cow and a quick buck to make from all the companies that you buy from.

Everybody's got the choice to do what they want to do in the end. If you want to choose to pay to play and buy your entire roster, then that's entirely up to you. It's your money. I'm not telling you what to do with your money or making choices for you in regards to your hobby just because I don't necessarily agree with the difference of opinion. In the same regards and for others, it is our money to choose what to do at the end of the day based on our thoughts and principles. I am saying that from my stance, I refuse to support such a thing and not because of some kind of fandom that you're confused that I may or may not have. Everyone is entitled to their choice and opinions, but to try to convince a person to change their opinion or make the choice for them when it's not their choice to make to begin with is a wholly different thing itself.
Yup, I was grouping you in with the sentiment that is running rampant on the internet right now that Microsoft wants to kill your dog and Sony wants to give you fellatio in the backroom. I apologize if you don't actually fit into that, but it is so ubiquitous at the moment that it is easy to lump folks into that category.

And it is in no way wrong to say that companies solely exist to make money. The top execs that actually make the decisions get paid big bucks, and they have share holders to worry about that only care about seeing proper returns. The people that really care about their fan base are not the ones making the decisions. It's also worth noting that just because a CEO comes out and says this or that doesn't mean it's genuine. It's called PR, and it's an integral part of their business strategy. EA has come out and said that they fully support used games, yet their past actions CLEARLY show that they do not. It's all PR drivel and it's just little more than pandering. There are certainly companies here and there (usually small ones) that may, indeed, care about their customers even at the top level, but it is certainly not the norm. Even companies that seem to be really involved with their fans (look at the fighting game branch of Capcom) still make decisions to benefit the company and make money. Ultimate MvC3 says hello.

I'm not trying to tell you what you do with you money at all. It doesn't matter to me even a little bit; why the hell would it? I'm arguing with you based on the merits of your principals. That is what forums are for, after all. It just seems like a cop-out to bring up the "do whatever you want with your money" card. That should really go without saying. We are debating the merits of certain opinions, principles, and lines if thinking, nothing more. To bring it full circle back to Killer Instinct. As long as the entire game can be purchased for $60, then you can just pretend that buying it in piece meal or as a free to play doesn't exist because it won't change your experience. It merely adds more options for someone else. I don't see how any stance of principle can possibly make that a bad thing. Your pricing option of choice (buying the whole thing) isn't hampered and there are now more choices for others. How does that warrant a boy-cot or avoidance on principle? Now, if you want to take the angle of avoiding it because it is digital only and therefore will not see retailer sales like physical games tend to, then that is an entirely different and more legitimate conversation all together.

I'm buying a PS4 at launch and won't get an Xbox until a price cut. This isn't out of some misplaced fandom on my end, either. I just think that many people are too quick to jump on bandwagons or throw out opinions that aren't well thought out or reasonable (not neccesarilly saying you are). And I also have a 'slight' affinity for debate (If this whole being a doctor thing doesn't work out, then I would clearly be cut out for being a lawyer. lol)
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