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[flatout]

I see it as the company that owns his company dictates what he does with the brand they own as far as most of the marketing goes (I am sure they take his input and even leave some things up to him)... but I could be wrong of coarse.

Originally Posted by toxicatom5

I'm wondering what it will cost for the second edition. You'd think it would have to be below $350 (presuming the second edition wouldn't be numbered or signed). If all you're paying for is the numbering when everything else is identical, then it would be worth the wait.

Aren't second editions almost always the same list price as the first?

[Mike1888]

Originally Posted by flatout

I see it as the company that owns his company dictates what he does with the brand they own as far as most of the marketing goes (I am sure they take his input and even leave some things up to him)... but I could be wrong of coarse.

Has Take-Two done this with any other of their game series/devs?

[flatout]

Originally Posted by Mike1888

This was totally expected. I've been complaining about this since their trio of lithos.

People keep buying, they keep increasing the price of his signature. Its that simple really, so if you are someone who has bought every single signed thing they have put out, I'm not sure why you're complaining.

Very true.

Originally Posted by Mike1888

Has Take-Two done this with any other of their game series/devs?

Not may have the sway that this game has had in the memorabilia market. But really i cannot speak for the other franchises, plus Irrational is a unique situation where the Director is almost as famous as the game. I am not sure i know another game director by name as well as I know the name Ken Levine and Bioshock (this could be a personal thing I suppose).

Also things may have changed up some business wise in Take Two, who knows really. They seemed to do a lot of Borderlands stuff as well but the items did not sell nearly as well, so that is probably why they did not keep making tons of new items (I know they made quite a few though).


But I am simply speculating and giving my opinion... none of us know the inner workings (unless there is a Take Two/Irrational/2K employee here who wants to weigh in).

[SwiftDeath]

Originally Posted by flatout

Not may have the sway that this game has had in the memorabilia market. but really i cannot speak for the other franchises, plus Irrational is a unique situation where the Director is almost as famous as the game. I am not sure i know another game director by name as well as I know the name Ken Levine and Bioshock (this could be a personal thing I suppose).

Also things may have changed up some business wise in Take Two, who knows really. They seemed to do a lot of Borderlands stuff as well but the items did not sell nearly as well, so that is probably why they did not keep making tons of new items (I know they made quite a few though).


But I am simply speculation and giving my opinion... non of us know the inner workings (unless there is a Take Two/Irrational/2K employee here who wants to weigh in).

Strange thing is the borderlands store is run by Treehouse

Always wondered why irrational got their own store

Guess Bioshock merchandise is a lot more profitable or something

[toxicatom5]

Originally Posted by flatout

Aren't second editions almost always the same list price as the first?

lol! I guess for irrational they are! I was thinking that they might release an open second edition at a lower price point considering it would (presumably) lack the signature and numbering, but given the Bucking Bronco screen-print situation you're probably right.

[flatout]

It all is connected to the 2K store too... even Irrational's contact for support is through the 2K store and all items come from the 2K warehouse.

[flatout]

Yeah as far as collectable wise the First Editions are worth more but usually the Second Editions are sold on stores for the same retail price... this is just from a few I have seen.

[amb6883]

Originally Posted by flatout

Yeah as far as collectable wise the First Editions are worth more but usually the Second Editions are sold on stores for the same retail price... this is just from a few I have seen.

The problem is that the only ones that come with a certificate of authenticity are the signed bottles (at least from the descriptions).

[blingaling]

I went ahead and got the unsigned, all else aside it really is a beautiful item.
I'm absolutely positive they will produce more if they sell out, at least we do get a minor indication that this will be so due to the "fist edition" clause in the description, as well as their history with other "sold-out" items. Honestly I would be quite happy for a re-release of the MoC bottle.

I get the feeling this pricing structure is a reaction to the super inflated prices we saw in the secondary market. Sold out? Signed? $$$! I profited off of that boom myself. Now autographs are expensive right off the bat. Nothing is ever really sold out. I think it's pretty plain that they just want to destroy that secondary market and take that money themselves.

Sucks for those on a limited budget. Sucks for those (like me) who live in the US and are never far enough away from their computers to miss a limited release item drop. Sucks worst for those who want to resell. Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying I believe what's going on with the Irrational store is specifically targeting resellers.

After the truly awful feedback over the signed book can you blame them?

[Mike1888]

Originally Posted by blingaling

I went ahead and got the unsigned, all else aside it really is a beautiful item.
I'm absolutely positive they will produce more if they sell out, at least we do get a minor indication that this will be so due to the "fist edition" clause in the description, as well as their history with other "sold-out" items. Honestly I would be quite happy for a re-release of the MoC bottle.

I get the feeling this pricing structure is a reaction to the super inflated prices we saw in the secondary market. Sold out? Signed? $$$! I profited off of that boom myself. Now autographs are expensive right off the bat. Nothing is ever really sold out. I think it's pretty plain that they just want to destroy that secondary market and take that money themselves.

Sucks for those on a limited budget. Sucks for those (like me) who live in the US and are never far enough away from their computers to miss a limited release item drop. Sucks worst for those who want to resell. Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying I believe what's going on with the Irrational store is specifically targeting resellers.

They can't "take that money for themselves." The fact that something is sold out is what makes it worth those amounts, not the signature itself.

Autographs have always been expensive, they're just seeing how far they can go and still get people to buy.

After the truly awful feedback over the signed book can you blame them?

Not sure what you mean.