Statues & Figures Thread - Any & All Game Related

[Barran]

i just found a pic from the upcoming God of War Statue... i hope to see some better pictures soon, maybe Dr Jengo can get some when hes doing his exclusive interview with gary barth if he didnt already did the interview

[flatout]

Originally Posted by xhunter

Ah, I figured they started out limited (but not numbered) since the Tracer V2 statue sold out for quite some time, returned to stock and sold out again. Realized it wasn't limited now that the Tracer statue stays in stock.

Either way, I can't complain. Means I don't have to rush to buy each one. And I want each one...

Yeah it was mostly due to them just not anticipating the market for them (they didn't want to make too massive of an order and get stuck with them). Then they realized the demand and started another order (but from what I read their factory was having issues keeping up with even the current orders and the new statues... but they must have found a way around that).

Originally Posted by Barran

i just found a pic from the upcoming God of War Statue... i hope to see some better pictures soon, maybe Dr Jengo can get some when hes doing his exclusive interview with gary barth if he didnt already did the interview

Yeah the light from the bottom makes the statue look super dark in the image... that is unfortunate.

[garybarth]

Hey Guys,

I've received a couple revision samples from the Factory, and with the exception of a few tiny paint changes (his brown nipple, the axe handle should be a little more orange brown and the forearm scars need to be a little more subtle). But overall, I'm really happy with it.







Thanks,
Gary

[GameTrigger]

garybarth, thank you for sharing pics
Boy eyes should be blue...

[garybarth]

I believe they are blue (it's hard to tell with the lighting in these pics). I'll confirm in the morning.

Thanks,
G

[Barran]

Finally some pics from the new GoW Statue, sweet, thank you Gary, was lookin everywhere but couldnt find anything except one pic from the PSX 2017

the base with the troll head looks good, there is also snow on the base, i didnt know that, i like that. The body from Kratos and Atreus incl. armor and weapon also looks good as far as is see. i agree with the paint change you mentioned.

But im disappointed with the faces from Kratos and especially Atreus. I dont like the Facial expressions, looks like they lost alot of details on the revision sample. For example, the way Kratos looks on the revision sample... he looks a little bit like he is scared of something while on the prototype pic he has a strict look. also the eye browns looks better on the proto type, they are longer and thicker




The beard of Kratos looks more detailed on the prototype images compared to the revision sample, this is probably because the color was too thick and so the details disappeared, I often see that problem on statues.




The face from Atreus looks totally different when you compare the prototype pics vs the revision sample pics, especially around his eyes. it looks like they just painted it with one skin color will the prototype has differend skin color types, especially around his eyes (darker skin around his eyes, i think kratos has the same problem but not that bad compared to Atreus). i could be wrong because of the light conditions, but it looks like that Atreus face lost alot of details in his face with that paintjob.




i know that the prototype pics where taken under perfect lighting conditions while your pictures were taken under normal light conditions, that's why I cannot judge 100% (also the camera angel isnt 100% the same), but I am afraid that the final product doesnt looks what the prototype is looking like, especially the faces.


Prototype vs Revision Sample:







perhaps you could give us some more pics with some close up, maybe the light and camera angel just wasnt that good.

[Mar-l-Aoutat]

Originally Posted by Barran

Light and angle probably have a lot to do with the differences, but to me they are very likely.
Maybe Atreus eyes...the white seems too bright, and the pupil not big enough, but it very hard to tell with those very low res pictures.

[garybarth]

Originally Posted by Mar-l-Aoutat

Light and angle probably have a lot to do with the differences, but to me they are very likely.
Maybe Atreus eyes...the white seems too bright, and the pupil not big enough, but it very hard to tell with those very low res pictures.

This was one of the changes we are addressing. We took the blue down slightly (it was too vampire-like especially given his sort of gray skin tone that he has, even in the game...although it alternates from really pale to gray depending on the scene), and he doesn’t have pupils in this iteration (I took the pics quickly as I was leaving the office and only noticed when I got back. That was clearly a goof. I think you’ll be happier once those changes are made.

Thanks,
G

[garybarth]

Wow, that's quite a forensic analysis. Okay, here's my thoughts:

1) You can't expect the production unit's paint job to match the prototype perfectly. I'm sorry but that is just not realistic. One is painted over the course of 10 days by a master painter in the U.S. for $1000-1500, while the consumer version is painted by multiple assembly line painters in China over the course of a couple days. I can tell you that this statue looks amazing in person.

2) We reduced the amount of deep surface detail in Kratos' beard to make the molding process easier because the "worms" of hair (as we called them) worked well for the full 1:1 scale statue I made for the PSX tradeshow, but the factory had concerns about molding/casting them. That change was approved by the studio.

3) This statue was originally created using an older version of the Kratos model that had super thick eyebrows. Once we printed and painted the prototype, the eyebrows no longer matched the model that was in the game and we "took down" the eyebrows so they didn't look like two caterpillars sleeping on his forehead. That, combined with the lack of dramatic lighting, and the lower angles from the original pics may be causing what you think is the change in expression, but I can assure you that we didn't change it.

4) The same goes for Atreus. He was molded off the same tooling masters so his face was not augmented at all. With regard to the paint, as I mentioned, we are still making paint adjustments to parts of the statue. I'll see about adding more apps to his skin (he has kind of a cold, pastey skin tone in the game).

I am very happy with the quality of this statue. The amount of paint detail is amazing and the pictures don't do it justice, but I also know that I won't be able to please everyone. If you have concerns, you should hold off until the unboxing videos hit and make your decision then.

Thanks,
Gary

[Barran]

Thank you Gary for your detailed answer and for the fact that you respond to the points I have addressed, that explained some aspects. to give you a "forensic analysis", I must, of course, wait for the finished version, everything else would be nonsense, the points I mentioned should only be well-intentioned criticism which serves that the statue may be improved in some places.

Wow, that's quite a forensic analysis

yes that's because I'm german, that's what we germans are known for, german precision xD

1) You can't expect the production unit's paint job to match the prototype perfectly. I'm sorry but that is just not realistic. One is painted over the course of 10 days by a master painter in the U.S. for $1000-1500, while the consumer version is painted by multiple assembly line painters in China over the course of a couple days. I can tell you that this statue looks amazing in person.

At this point, I can only partially agree with you. I have statues in my collection, which definitely can match with the Paintjob from Prototypes... unfortunately very few, but it is possible. There are aspects that of course have to be considered such as production size and of course the costs. but like i said above, i need to see the final product in person to make a final verdict.

2) We reduced the amount of deep surface detail in Kratos' beard to make the molding process easier because the "worms" of hair (as we called them) worked well for the full 1:1 scale statue I made for the PSX tradeshow, but the factory had concerns about molding/casting them. That change was approved by the studio.

Ah ok, thats explains why the beard doesnt looks so detailed. do you know what excatly was the concern from the factory? does the factory had the fear that something can break off the beard, these so-called worms?

3) This statue was originally created using an older version of the Kratos model that had super thick eyebrows. Once we printed and painted the prototype, the eyebrows no longer matched the model that was in the game and we "took down" the eyebrows so they didn't look like two caterpillars sleeping on his forehead. That, combined with the lack of dramatic lighting, and the lower angles from the original pics may be causing what you think is the change in expression, but I can assure you that we didn't change it.

You're right, I've just looked at a few pictures of Kratos, the eyebrows are actually thinner, I have not noticed that so far, that explains that of course. The dramatic lighting and the lower angles you mentioned also play an important role, so the photos you provided actually look like the facial expression has changed, but I believe you when you are saying that nothing has changed.
"two caterpillars sleeping on his forehead" hehe i like that one. xD

4) The same goes for Atreus. He was molded off the same tooling masters so his face was not augmented at all. With regard to the paint, as I mentioned, we are still making paint adjustments to parts of the statue. I'll see about adding more apps to his skin (he has kind of a cold, pastey skin tone in the game).

its nice to hear that you and your team lookin forward for some paint adjustments and adding some more apps to his skin, he still worries me most, cant wait to see the final Atreus.


so thanks again for your answer, I hope you have not taken up my criticism wrong, I do not want to talk the statue bad, I cannot really judge on the basis of 2 pictures, but I am happy if the things I have mentioned may help to improve the statue, im still lookin forward to get the statue for my collection, i already pre ordered it.... btw. do you know when the statue will be released, is there an estimate date?

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