The RetroBook Project: Phase I - Page 3

gurpswoo1 · #1 06-14-2012, 09:14 PM

Great idea, Thanks for allowing input.

The large portion of the steelbook community seems to prefer G2 sized steelbooks,

But in this case I think G1 is the only choice, the instruction manual is a must in my opinion. therefore G2 is not a feasible option.

In terms of finish, is there any chance of embossed text or finish to artwork.

Also make sure that the cart fits with or without the black sleeve.

I think also that NES manuals were quite thick compared to todays manuals.

I have ideas on how to make it unquie but they are out there:

One piece of merchandise that was released with the early big games were soundtracks CD. One option could be to incorporate a CD slot for these soundtracks.

what about using UV reactive paint, great effect under the right light. or maybe on inside artwork instead.

One of biggest problems with steelbooks is ensuring the paint does not get marked, any chance for improved coatings.

Some part of world have high humidity, could there be a place to put a moisture absorbing packs.

The same with dust, maybe incorporates a dust protector for slot if the game doesn't have a sleeve.

In terms of which game to use, there are so many I would be happy with.

Mario bros
Zelda
Battletoads
Castlevania 3
Final Fantasy
Metal Gear

evilvort3x · #2 06-14-2012, 09:44 PM

sounds excellent. would love to have something to do with this...

NaughtyDogJames · #3 06-14-2012, 11:11 PM

Ii'm presuming as they'll be blu ray or similar.

NaughtyDogJames · #4 06-14-2012, 11:18 PM

My request would be a Crash Bandicoot trilogy Steelbook. Easier to make as it would be just a 3 disc Steelbook.

Madigan · #5 06-15-2012, 12:03 AM

Niiice I like the idea. I can help with the designs (I'm studying graphic design) once we reach the ps1 era

(Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve, FFs, Resident Evils, Oddworld, Silent Hill, etc).

We need more details about the project.

Who are you? (are you part of the industry, one guy, a group, etc)
We'll have to pay upfront like a kickstarter or are you paying now and sell later?
Price (aprox)?

Quote:

Every Steelbook will contain a certificate of authenticity, and numbered.

I think is a good idea to print the number inside the steelbook AND include the COA with the number, but I think the number printed on the inner box art is enough and is harder to duplicate.

PD: limit this to 2-4 (or something) per person, just to avoid those fucking hoarders and ebay resellers.....

Kelekin · #6 06-15-2012, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurpswoo1

Great idea, Thanks for allowing input.

The large portion of the steelbook community seems to prefer G2 sized steelbooks,

But in this case I think G1 is the only choice, the instruction manual is a must in my opinion. therefore G2 is not a feasible option.

In terms of finish, is there any chance of embossed text or finish to artwork.

Also make sure that the cart fits with or without the black sleeve.

I think also that NES manuals were quite thick compared to todays manuals.

I have ideas on how to make it unquie but they are out there:

One piece of merchandise that was released with the early big games were soundtracks CD. One option could be to incorporate a CD slot for these soundtracks.

what about using UV reactive paint, great effect under the right light. or maybe on inside artwork instead.

One of biggest problems with steelbooks is ensuring the paint does not get marked, any chance for improved coatings.

Some part of world have high humidity, could there be a place to put a moisture absorbing packs.

The same with dust, maybe incorporates a dust protector for slot if the game doesn't have a sleeve.

In terms of which game to use, there are so many I would be happy with.

Mario bros
Zelda
Battletoads
Castlevania 3
Final Fantasy
Metal Gear

Alright, lots of questions. Let me answer as best I can:

- It sounds like I may be able to do G1 if I end up doing 4 titles at a time. The reason I think G1 is more and more necessary is that if you do systems from across all the titles, G1 is the easiest to match up and organize. For example, N64 manuals -definitely- do not fit in G2 cases. Nor would PS2 or Gamecube. But NES manuals would. The problem is, I can't move where the holders are on the left side of the case. So if you have PS1 games, your manual may need to be kept elsewhere, depending on how well it clips inside.

- All different possibilities of effects can be explored. Different finishes (matte, gloss, etc) as well as emboss/deboss have been shown to me and how they work. Depending on the title, it will determine what effects are used.

- Most Nintendo games did not come with soundtracks...if any, off the top of my head. If a PS1 game came with a soundtrack or demo CD, we'd incorporate a slot for the bonus disc.

- I am unsure about if UV reactive paint is doable. These are shot with plates and will likely be CMYK, and it is unlikely their press has UV reactive ink. I will double check, but I am pretty sure this won't happen as cool as that would be.

- A lot of the rest of what you mentioned seemed like something that the consumer should deal with. I can likely find a way to provide protection for the case itself, but humidity issues etc. are something that I can't troubleshoot for individual people.

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilvort3x

sounds excellent. would love to have something to do with this...

If you have something that would benefit the project e.g. certain skillsets, just let me know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitchyPenguin

My request would be a Crash Bandicoot trilogy Steelbook. Easier to make as it would be just a 3 disc Steelbook.

The benefit of PS1 is that lots of trilogy or collection-based steelbooks would be very doable. So it could certainly happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madigan

Niiice I like the idea. I can help with the designs (I'm studying graphic design) once we reach the ps1 era

(Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve, FFs, Resident Evils, Oddworld, Silent Hill, etc).

We need more details about the project.

Who are you? (are you part of the industry, one guy, a group, etc)
We'll have to pay upfront like a kickstarter or are you paying now and sell later?
Price (aprox)?

I think is a good idea to print the number inside the steelbook AND include the COA with the number, but I think the number printed on the inner box art is enough and is harder to duplicate.

PD: limit this to 2-4 (or something) per person, just to avoid those fucking hoarders and ebay resellers.....

- Any design help would be cool. Right now I'm figuring out what kind of specs and requirements I'll have, I'm hoping by next week I'll know what I may have to do. It's very possible we may do something like a monochromatic background with more of a spot colour effect, to really emphasis certain elements and give the entire project a single style. If it's all part of one project, it makes sense to do some sort of theme, no? And in my opinion, a lot of the nice steelbooks have had a more monochromatic background (DMC4 Europe Steelbook, RE:ORC, FFXIII).

- I am not part of the industry, I'm just one guy. I do trade shows locally for various things and would love to be able to bring these to some local trade shows (we have an expo that had 60000 attendance this year). This project is my baby, and this is the type of person who I am - an idea man. I have a million ideas, and this is my favourite, and am glad to have a shot to run with it (hopefully).

- Whether or not it will have to be paid up front is based on when they tell me how invoicing works. In the printing industry, usually you don't pay until after you have your product as a company would invoice you. But Steelbook is unique, so I won't know yet. I am hoping that -after- a production order is made, I can start taking pre-orders via paypal or somewhere else (there may be a better option that paypal - kickstarter might be a bit big).

- Pricing will be determined once I can figure out shipping costs. Since these would all be shipped in mailing boxes...I am hoping to work out a deal with Canada Post. I am hoping to be able to get it down to somewhere around $30-35 within North America, and $35-40 internationally. But if I end up being able to release multiple titles at once, there would be discounts for multiple titles being purchased etc.

- It would be impossible to print the number inside the steelbook as the company won't do that. The CoA is the best I can do, but I will be using a numbering device and some rather high quality paper (I have ties to the printing industry so I can get pretty good stuff). I think it would be very hard for someone to duplicate these, since Steelbook is already working with me and wouldn't let someone duplicate it, and there isn't much in the way of competition out there. Keep in mind that Steelbook copyrights are also imprinted into all their cases.

- As far as quantity limitations, it's hard to do it at this point. I'd be a bit offended that someone would buy these off me and then re-sell them this early on, considering I am making these specifically for collectors communities. But if someone tells me they want to buy 20 or 30 of these, I would certainly ask why they need so many.