Journey screenprint by JC Richards

[Dan]

Originally Posted by amb6883

People flip houses.

They do, but not without paying a 30% fee of the earnings. Unless they wait the 5 year wait period

[blingaling]

I can't believe I'm bothering to write this...

If you were too slow to beat the flippers to your purchase, you were probably too slow to beat the other fans.

Romeo, we get it. You are a broken record. All the internet tough guy talk in the world isn't going to change how the world works.

Retailers sell things to make money. Oh you're a fan? Who cares. There are a whole bunch of fans out there. And guess what, most of them have more money to spend than you do.
Should a retailer raise prices to insure that only "true fans" who are willing to shell out more can get any particular item? That doesn't seem to work. Take a look at all the bitching in the Irrational store thread about the prices on signed items. All of those recent signed releases are still available in the store. They don't sell on the aftermarket, so they are not selling out. As a retailer, is it not preferable to sell out your whole stock immediately? Strong aftermarket drives that.
Well then, why don't they just make more so everyone can have one? Take a look in the Bethesda thread where people are complaining about there being too many of things produced, making them less "collectible".
You want people to not be able to do what they wish with things they have purchased? Asinine.

Originally Posted by Dan

that's how it works when buying a house.

you must keep it for a minimum of a 2-5 years before selling it otherwise there's a fee you must pay. (this is made to prevent people from flipping homes and making large amount of money)

capital gain fee my friend...

Not true in the slightest.


TLDR:

Originally Posted by amb6883

I am indifferent to flippers and accept they exist now and don't bitch about it.

[blingaling]

Originally Posted by Dan

They do, but not without paying a 30% fee of the earnings. Unless they wait the 5 year wait period

Again, not true in the slightest.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by blingaling

Again, not true in the slightest.

dude...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital..._United_States


Primary residence

Percent of personal income from capital gains and dividends for different income groups (2006).




Under 26 U.S.C. §121[20] an individual can exclude, from his or her gross income, up to $250,000 ($500,000 for a married couple filing jointly) of capital gains on the sale of real property if the owner used it as primary residence for two of the five years before the date of sale. The two years of residency do not have to be continuous. An individual may meet the ownership and use tests during different 2-year periods. Both tests must be satisfied during the 5-year period ending on the date of the sale

[CheapAssassin]

As a collector, I have come to accept there are certain things I will miss out or too slow to get, such as this piece. But it all makes it more challenging as a collector, and even more satisfying if in the end manage to trade one or get one for a reasonable price.

All companies operate based on profit, those fan-service stuffs I never take it seriously. Of course companies like TreeHouse and IrrationalStore take extra steps to reach out to us, and give us heads up or tips, and I really appreciate that. But dont expect them to restrict flippers on the business side. It is after all, business.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by jonkhor86

As a collector, I have come to accept there are certain things I will miss out or too slow to get, such as this piece. But it all makes it more challenging as a collector, and even more satisfying if in the end manage to trade one or get one for a reasonable price.

All companies operate based on profit, those fan-service stuffs I never take it seriously. Of course companies like TreeHouse and IrrationalStore take extra steps to reach out to us, and give us heads up or tips, and I really appreciate that. But dont expect them to restrict flippers on the business side. It is after all, business.

I agree, it's just frustrating to loose your opportunity to get something memorable over an asshole who's just doing it out of pure gain.

[blingaling]

Originally Posted by Dan

dude...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital..._United_States


Primary residence

Percent of personal income from capital gains and dividends for different income groups (2006).
Under 26 U.S.C. §121[20] an individual can exclude, from his or her gross income, up to $250,000 ($500,000 for a married couple filing jointly) of capital gains on the sale of real property if the owner used it as primary residence for two of the five years before the date of sale. The two years of residency do not have to be continuous. An individual may meet the ownership and use tests during different 2-year periods. Both tests must be satisfied during the 5-year period ending on the date of the sale

Your quotation refers to primary residence. Even after you edited it, still only applicable to primary residence. Even if those same rules applied (which they do not,) you would still not be assessed taxes unless your profit from the sale exceeds 250,000/500,000.

There are numerous ways around capital gains if you are running a for profit home flipping business. Of course you still pay tax, but 30% is a far cry from reality.
Google 1031 tax exchange.

edit: Also, this bickering is pointless.

[rasmusvn]

Originally Posted by jonkhor86

As a collector, I have come to accept there are certain things I will miss out or too slow to get, such as this piece. But it all makes it more challenging as a collector, and even more satisfying if in the end manage to trade one or get one for a reasonable price.

All companies operate based on profit, those fan-service stuffs I never take it seriously. Of course companies like TreeHouse and IrrationalStore take extra steps to reach out to us, and give us heads up or tips, and I really appreciate that. But dont expect them to restrict flippers on the business side. It is after all, business.

It's certainly nice to see this happening now, but that wasn't the case in the beginning (at least not from how I remember it).

The beginning being the ME-lithos.

[LyricalOne]

Originally Posted by Dan

i'm sure we can just buy it off ebay for an extra 300 more dollars of the original price

There's an idea

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But as I have read on this thread, I too do not like flippers, but they are part of the "market" as well. Like Bling mentioned, in the end it's all about sales. People just have to either learn to deal with the flippers, or get richer

Also, if only "true fans" were the ones to buy these collectible items..then no one outside the original buying group would ever get one.
For example, to all those of you that missed out this time, you might get lucky and buy/trade for one (at perhaps a reasonable price)
If only "true fans" had purchased all the copies of the SC, then why would they ever want to sell/trade the piece?

Just my 2 cents.

[Mike1888]

Got an update email. These are shipping out next week, and they included a "making of" photo.