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[nipperkipper]

Originally Posted by flatout

With a delay this be on Watch Dogs there must have been a huge issue. It would have been ready in a month and sent to go gold, so like Bioshock Infinite and TLOU it was something fairly big they wanted to fix/change.

Funny thing is it is not good in just this instance... delays are almost always good as it is always better to give devs more time to make a game better. The only people who would disagree are over entitled consumers who always want things "NOW!".



Nice stuff Lowly... sorry to hear about the Royal Mail strike.

All the previews i read said the game had LOADS of bugs and glitches still to be fixed and with a release in less than two months some previewers even predicted a delay

[flatout]

Actually that is a smart possibility. But it is the same with that game, if there was a big issue they would have had to push it back... bringing in more people can't really fix big issues fast (just too hectic). Although it could have been a polish issue only which bringing in more people could solve... so it is a possibility.


You also have to take into account this move was big to their stock holders (these are the real people the video game companies are trying to please... not us, to be fair pleasing us translates to more money which means pleasing the real people they want to please. Know that if they had to chose between us and them it would be them plain and simple), it was a big let down as Ubi had upped their profit prediction for this quarter due to planning for WD to be bigger then the first AC.

[LowlyAssassin]

Originally Posted by flatout

Actually that is a smart possibility. But it is the same with that game, if there was a big issue they would have had to push it back... bringing in more people can't really fix big issues fast (just too hectic). Although it could have been a polish issue only which bringing in more people could solve... so it is a possibility.


You also have to take into account this move was big to their stock holders (these are the real people the video game companies are trying to please... not us, to be fair pleasing us translates to more money which means pleasing the real people they want to please. Know that if they had to chose between us and them it would be them plain and simple), it was a big let down as Ubi had upped their profit prediction for this quarter due to planning for WD to be bigger then the first AC.

i completely understand what your getting t, that one quarter massive profits doesn't looks as good on paper as two quarters big profits
i guess my sauce was wrong

[flatout]

That is not it at all. Stock holders are all about immediate profit. Also if WD came out early (on time) then the next project would be on its way that much quicker and more profits technically.

I am simply speaking from a stock holder perspective of wanting gains/profit. Trust me my recipe is sound.

[LowlyAssassin]

Originally Posted by flatout

That is not it at all. Stock holders are all about immediate profit. Also if WD came out early (on time) then the next project would be on its way that much quicker and more profits technically.

I am simply speaking from a stock holder perspective of wanting gains/profit. Trust me my recipe is sound.

ok
it must have been that i just mis understood then

[flatout]

Originally Posted by LowlyAssassin

ok
it must have been that i just mis understood then

Well I should have explained it better off the bat really.


It is not the system so much as how it is being used (or not used). Lobbyist from the richest and most powerful companies and groups get things they want... that is how it is but not how it is supposed to be.

[LyricalOne]

Originally Posted by flatout

That is not it at all. Stock holders are all about immediate profit. Also if WD came out early (on time) then the next project would be on its way that much quicker and more profits technically.

I am simply speaking from a stock holder perspective of wanting gains/profit. Trust me my recipe is sound.

As much as I agree (or want to), I believe it wasn't really anything wrong with the games.

I believe it was basically down to profit. By releasing too many titles too close to each other, they cannibalize their own sales, specially heading into the holiday season. They don't want people choosing between AC4 or WD, they rather people own both.

I'm pretty sure I could be completely wrong, but looking at it from a business POV and even taking the stock holders into account; it would seem like a smart business decision.

Of course delaying AC4 WOULD NOT be even an option as that is already established and would hurt sales more than anything.

Just my thoughts

[LowlyAssassin]

Originally Posted by LyricalOne

As much as I agree (or want to), I believe it wasn't really anything wrong with the games.

I believe it was basically down to profit. By releasing too many titles too close to each other, they cannibalize their own sales, specially heading into the holiday season. They don't want people choosing between AC4 or WD, they rather people own both.

I'm pretty sure I could be completely wrong, but looking at it from a business POV and even taking the stock holders into account; it would seem like a smart business decision.

Of course delaying AC4 WOULD NOT be even an option as that is already established and would hurt sales more than anything.

Just my thoughts

I agree with you somewhat
But I would like to offer one minor view point
If there are 2 games being released at one time
And UBisoft sells one, then ubisoft take 1/2 of the sales

But if there are 3 games released, and UBisoft sell 2
Then that is 2/3
And 2/3 is more then 1/2
Although I am aware your view point is correct and I agree with you
I am just saying

[LyricalOne]

Originally Posted by LowlyAssassin

I agree with you somewhat
But I would like to offer one minor view point
If there are 2 games being released at one time
And UBisoft sells one, then ubisoft take 1/2 of the sales

But if there are 3 games released, and UBisoft sell 2
Then that is 2/3
And 2/3 is more then 1/2
Although I am aware your view point is correct and I agree with you
I am just saying

I also thought about that.
It makes more sense to control a bigger share of the market (hmm AAA titles market?) so therefore the buyer is deciding between UBI vs UBI, rather than UBI vs COMPETITOR.

At the same time, the world economy isn't at any high point at all (specially the US, that's for the lols) and there money going to the market for VG is limited.
Potentially, they will get a bigger profit in the long run since they will spread their sales over 2 periods and not just one.

Of course, the game being glitchy is ALSO a big part of the delay I'm sure.

I just see it as if they had to delay either WD or AC4; one means fans get hurt, one means fans hurt them

But yes, I agree with you as well

[LowlyAssassin]

Originally Posted by LyricalOne

I also thought about that.
It makes more sense to control a bigger share of the market (hmm AAA titles market?) so therefore the buyer is deciding between UBI vs UBI, rather than UBI vs COMPETITOR.

At the same time, the world economy isn't at any high point at all (specially the US, that's for the lols) and there money going to the market for VG is limited.
Potentially, they will get a bigger profit in the long run since they will spread their sales over 2 periods and not just one.

Of course, the game being glitchy is ALSO a big part of the delay I'm sure.

I just see it as if they had to delay either WD or AC4; one means fans get hurt, one means fans hurt them

But yes, I agree with you as well

well ubisoft said they would never make a triple A game again after AC3
so in their definition ac4bf and dogs arent AAA titles
unles the all powerful and mighty UBI lied to us and if so then i'm having a big bonfire ;(