Dishonored / Skyrim / Fallout Litho's

[Green_Farm]

Originally Posted by nipperkipper

While i can understand your viewpoint i dont think it is the solution either. While bethesda can predict which litho will be more desirable they cant be sure. Lets say they raised the prices, some of the other lithos would not sell at those prices which would result in price discounting later on.

Limiting quantity is the only effective way.

I have already thought about that, I completely understand that view and agree with you 100%. But these aren't like upcoming comic books releases whre people don't know what to invest in. This merchandise popularity is already known, And Skyrim is in the upper section of collectible and worthy.

[nipperkipper]

Originally Posted by Green_Farm

I have already thought about that, I completely understand that view and agree with you 100%. But these aren't like upcoming comic books releases whre people don't know what to invest in. This merchandise popularity is already known, And Skyrim is in the upper section of collectible and worthy.

True but fallout is a massive ongoing series for 15 years+ and dishonored won game of the year and the dishonored prints (in my view) are excellent pieces of artwork

[Green_Farm]

But yes I do understand that there are hardcore fans that also can't afford a 150 or higher set price. So then the solution to that could be having a lower set price in the beginning, Maybe the first 50 at a very reasonable price and then the next 250 at a higher set price. That way the last 250 still don't sell out quite as fast as they did and the original first 50 don't shoot up so high in price on auctions because it's still available at a set price from Bethesda themselves.

[Madigan]

Originally Posted by Green_Farm

But yes I do understand that there are hardcore fans that also can't afford a 150 or higher set price. So then the solution to that could be having a lower set price in the beginning, Maybe the first 50 at a very reasonable price and then the next 250 at a higher set price. That way the last 250 still don't sell out quite as fast as they did and the original first 50 don't shoot up so high in price on auctions because it's still available at a set price from Bethesda themselves.

That doesn't solve the problem and you're punishing the rest of the buyers.

Resellers will buy it for $50 and once it sells out resell it for $250 or more.

That's a terrible idea, it's like videogames and intrusive drm.

[Green_Farm]

Originally Posted by Madigan

That doesn't solve the problem and you're punishing the rest of the buyers.

Resellers will buy it for $50 and once it sells out resell it for $250 or more.

That's a terrible idea, it's like videogames and intrusive drm.

I took that into account when I said it. The resellers will buy them at the low price in the beginning you are right, But so will fans. And you figure half of the early ones will be put up for auction somewhere, either they are sold while Bethesda has the higher price still in stock, which would limit the early ones market to the price Bethesda is selling the upper price, or when Bethesda completely sells out the price will jump astronomically. But at that time it doesn't matter anymore because Bethesda sold the majority at a higher clip anyway. The price is going to jump on a limited anything after it sells out. But atleast that way, they weren't profited on by 5x before they even got the product to other hands, and fans still got the opportunity at a lower price.

[toxicatom5]

I think a fundamental flaw in all of this is that if you just simply increase the price (whether it is at the beginning or after a certain amount are sold) and nothing else changes, you'd increase the price beyond what piece really dictates.

Sure people will pay astronomical prices on ebay, but that is due to the limited quantity in circulation not necessarily the quality of the piece. If stores start jumping their prices without making a coordinated improvement in quality that increase just doesn't warrant the price and buying it from the store becomes far less desirable to begin with.

Let me add, I think the quality of the pieces we've seen coming out recently is very good, but I also think they are fairly priced for what we are getting.

[Madigan]

Originally Posted by Green_Farm

I took that into account when I said it. The resellers will buy them at the low price in the beginning you are right, But so will fans. And you figure half of the early ones will be put up for auction somewhere, either they are sold while Bethesda has the higher price still in stock, which would limit the early ones market to the price Bethesda is selling the upper price, or when Bethesda completely sells out the price will jump astronomically. But at that time it doesn't matter anymore because Bethesda sold the majority at a higher clip anyway. The price is going to jump on a limited anything after it sells out. But atleast that way, they weren't profited on by 5x before they even got the product to other hands, and fans still got the opportunity at a lower price.

It doesn't work.

I buy them for $50 and when the second set goes up on sale for $150, I'll sell mine for $149 or wait till it sells out and sell it for even more since the base price was $150.

What about the rest of the fans? do you think all of them will buy the first run at a lower price?

It's simple limit it to 2 per customer, be there when it goes up for sale, follow this forum, twitter or facebook and that's it, if you get one good for you, if not... sorry there are 1 million users out there wanting the same.

[Green_Farm]

Originally Posted by Madigan

It doesn't work.

I buy them for $50 and when the second set goes up on sale for $150, I'll sell mine for $149 or wait till it sells out and sell it for even more since the base price was $150.

What about the rest of the fans? do you think all of them will buy the first run at a lower price?

It's simple limit it to 2 per customer, be there when it goes up for sale, follow this forum, twitter or facebook and that's it, if you get one good for you, if not... sorry there are 1 million users out there wanting the same.

I have been an imaginary president for Bethesda on a forum I joined 3 hours ago and I have been a fan that has bought the same product we are talking about.

You repeated my point in which if you bought it as a fan for 50 you would sell it for 149, That is my point! It wouldn't be at Three-Hundred dollars like the one that is on Ebay right now because Bethesda is still selling them at the 150 mark. Since they are selling it at the 150 mark they won't be getting profited on 6 times over, Only until they have completely sold out at the 150 is when the price jumps, it being at 150 it would most likely take it a longer while to sell out, and at that second set price it is not likely that people would all of a sudden jump 6x over 150. At that time though it doesn't matter because Bethesda both set a reasonable price for all fans, And didn't get raped before the product even left the building. I just think if Bethesda had the power to go back in time, They would not do it the same way over again.

[Matt16]

Originally Posted by Green_Farm

But yes I do understand that there are hardcore fans that also can't afford a 150 or higher set price. So then the solution to that could be having a lower set price in the beginning, Maybe the first 50 at a very reasonable price and then the next 250 at a higher set price. That way the last 250 still don't sell out quite as fast as they did and the original first 50 don't shoot up so high in price on auctions because it's still available at a set price from Bethesda themselves.

No offence but that would never work unless everyone formed an orderly que with those with less money at the the front. There's no perfect solution unfortunately as scalpers will always get hold of them. Limiting the quantity you can buy by IP address and account is the best way I can think of

[ingmar1988]

lol this is a useless discussion.

If you are a fan, just keep an eye out for new stuff and you wont miss out.

And if you do miss out dont go buy from ebay scalpers. Apparently people who do that have money to spare..so what?