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LowlyAssassin
08-30-2013, 09:49 AM
I was wonderingg if anybody would ever consider buying a Collectors edition that did not come with a disc but instead comes with a digital download code, either in the box or separately (so the CE could stay sealed)
It may happen in the future,
Does it already happen on PC?
Would it matter what platform (PC, PS3, PS4, Xbox360, Xbox One) the game was on?
What are your thoughts
Let's try and get a discussion going

LowlyAssassin
08-30-2013, 09:54 AM
Here are My thoughts are
If tas some kind of system put in place that let me rent or lend the game to a friend ( so they could play it for a day/week/month or when ever I am not playing it)
Then I can see it being a viable option

But I am unsure if i would choose to buy that over a CE with a game in

But if it was for the same platform but say it was 20-30 USD /GBP/euro cheaper then it would seem like a better deal and I would be more convinced

vhal_x
08-30-2013, 11:25 AM
If it was the only option, then yes. However, regardless of if the code is inside the box, or on your receipt when you purchase, I'd still open the CE.

But when digital-only finally drops, I'll be gutted. I far prefer a physical disc xx

Platfus
08-30-2013, 11:36 AM
The PS3 CE version of Terraria comes only witha code. I woul buy it, but the code is locked for NA PSN :/

LowlyAssassin
08-30-2013, 11:46 AM
But what idf it was cheaper then the disc based CE v
Would you buy it then?

vhal_x
08-30-2013, 11:47 AM
And they were released side by side? No, I would still go for the disc one. If anything, the price difference would probably only be about ?10 anyway, but even if it was a bit more, I'd still go for disc xx

Platfus
08-30-2013, 11:48 AM
Yes, I would go with the disc one.

LowlyAssassin
08-30-2013, 11:50 AM
Discs are over rated
Imagine a way of playing games without having to change discs
Or worry about them gettng scratched or stolen
Oh yea thays called steam :/i

vhal_x
08-30-2013, 11:53 AM
I have Steam, and have 76 games on my Steam account (only had it for a few months, oops!) but I still prefer disc based gaming.

Sure, you need to get up and change the disc, but it's not like that requires much effort.

Yes, discs can get scratched, but as long as you take care of them, you;re fine.

Look at it this way, in 20 years when Xbox 360 is dead, digital copies will no longer be able to be played/bought, really. Disc copies however will go on forever. Sure, you may not be able to access online, or downloaded DLC, but the main game will still be there for you to play and enjoy for as long as you own that disc and console.

Plus, physical copies you can see and enjoy looking at how many you own, digital is just a number that you can't get the same enjoyment of looking over xx

Ayiu
08-30-2013, 11:56 AM
I really like my discs but as a sealed collector it doesn't make that much difference if there is a a digital game card or a disc included, as long as the digital game card has no expiration date, I'm fine with it :)

LowlyAssassin
08-30-2013, 12:40 PM
If the future is so heavily digital based
Like all out musis,TV, movies and entertainment is digital
We do not have any guaranteed that it will last forever
I think, maybe this is the main fear a lot of you have,l; not just with digital games but also all digital entertainment and media

But how many of you print off all of your digital photographs just in case you lose the digital copy?
And on a side note
Does anyone know the projected life cycle /life span of the ps4/xo?

vhal_x
08-30-2013, 01:29 PM
I prefer to buy music on CDs or LP, however I rarely buy music nowadays other than if it's my favourite band (Papa Roach), just because I don't really have time to listen to music half the time.

I do actually print out a lot of my digital photos, I usually go to the little Kodak Kiosks in Tesco etc, every few months and print a bundle out :)

Haven't done it in a few months though due to lack of money :( xx

Ayiu
08-30-2013, 01:50 PM
If the future is so heavily digital based
Like all out musis,TV, movies and entertainment is digital
We do not have any guaranteed that it will last forever
I think, maybe this is the main fear a lot of you have,l; not just with digital games but also all digital entertainment and media

But how many of you print off all of your digital photographs just in case you lose the digital copy?
And on a side note
Does anyone know the projected life cycle /life span of the ps4/xo?

I heard something about 10 years but don't pin me down to that.

LowlyAssassin
08-30-2013, 03:55 PM
I heard something about 10 years but don't pin me down to that.

Yes that's the past product life for the ps1/2/3 but I have not heard any actual proof for ps4
So could be true
I guess we will know in 2020 when the ps5 is anounced

SwiftDeath
08-30-2013, 05:12 PM
When all that is available are digital CE's in one way or another I'll stop collecting modern stuff and only collect past stuff if that makes sense

If I cannot have a physical copy of the game then I cannot collect that game

I may buy some collectibles for said game but it is not collecting to me

There is no physical connection to the game

It is the same as a flash game on kongregate or addictinggames

Just bits and bytes and nothing more

There is nothing lasting about a digital game

Matt16
08-31-2013, 01:08 AM
No, on top of no, next to no, before no, after no, surrounded by hell no!

I don't even download music, everything must be on CD for me.

When all that is available are digital CE's in one way or another I'll stop collecting modern stuff and only collect past stuff if that makes sense


Yup

Dreamcazman
08-31-2013, 01:09 AM
I would always purchase the physical disc version over a digital version given the choice. There are pros & cons of both.

Discs can be scratched and lost but you'd have to be a total dumbarse for that to happen.

Trouble is digital versions completely lose their value once you've redeemed the code so the only thing of value is the statue or whatever else came with the CE. Also you never really own the game, you just 'allowed' to play it.

I know everything will go digital eventually, but in the meantime I'll keep on collecting the disc based versions. :)

LowlyAssassin
08-31-2013, 01:14 AM
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Discs can be scratched and lost but you'd have to be a total dumbarse for that to happen.


You have obviously never used an Xbox 360

When assassins creed 3 came out
I got the game 5 days early and put it in my console
Installed it so it didn't spine as much
And do not take it out for over 6 weeks
Nobody else used or touched the console
No earthquakes or anything that mover the conse
The console was flat so the disc was spinning the normal flat way

And when I finally took it out
It looked like someone used it as a coaster
Yes that really happened

SwiftDeath
08-31-2013, 01:16 AM
You have obviously never used an Xbox 360

When assassins creed 3 came out
I got the game 5 days early and put it in my console
Installed it so it didn't spine as much
And do not take it out for over 6 weeks
Nobody else used or touched the console
No earthquakes or anything that mover the conse
The console was flat so the disc was spinning the normal flat way

And when I finally took it out
It looked like someone used it as a coaster
Yes that really happened

For whatever reason certain disc drives are more susceptible to scratching discs then a normal drive is

Have yet to figure out why but I've heard of this before and it depends on what drive model you have

PS3 drives were mostly good because of the slot-loading which is a better disc drive style for protecting discs from scratches

Although blu-rays are less susceptible to scratches to begin with I think

LowlyAssassin
08-31-2013, 01:31 AM
For whatever reason certain disc drives are more susceptible to scratching discs then a normal drive is

Have yet to figure out why but I've heard of this before and it depends on what drive model you have

PS3 drives were mostly good because of the slot-loading which is a better disc drive style for protecting discs from scratches

Although blu-rays are less susceptible to scratches to begin with I think
There are 2 main reasons why Xbox discs get scratched
reason one (based on the original far xboxs I have not got hands on experience with 360 s or e
The disc spinning down (either while ejecting or just powering off the console) in both cases the spindle drops and let's the disc stop by spinning to a rest in the plastic drive tray
2nd reason
When the disc is ejected, the laser does not move back to the reset/ centre position, it stays where it was. And as there is very little clearance between the disc and laser if the laser was on the outside of the rail (edge of disc) when you last powered off the console or ejected the disc or the disc stopped spinning for whatever reason
The. The next time you change discs, the laser housing will catch either the ejecting disc or the new inserted disc
(I can't clearly remember if its both or just one or the other, but caiguely remember it being both, although the inserted disc to a laser extent as the drive is not spinning when the laser mech catches the disc)
I do know if the laser was at the outside of the disc and you press eject
The laser housing and rail mech and spindle lowers in such a fashion that the laser assembly catches on the disc and causes a r or L shaped scratch on the disc and then the disc spins to a stop on the plastic tray causing maximum damage
All of this is from plant of experience with open boxes of all 4 Xbox fat drive types

Twisted
08-31-2013, 01:45 AM
and what about digital content tied to a console like Nintendo does?...imagine the follow up to wii u..most likely probably digital codes for a majority of the game..and if your console stops working..as nintendos current policy for download content..you lose everything and have to re purchase everything all over again...I mean Nintendo console is not gonna last forever..anything could happen, accidential short circuit, a water spill, being dropped, stolen, misplaced..and all your games are gone as well..this is where Nintendo stands and most likely the future is all digital downloads especially the majority of very young school kids and teens are growing up in digital era and they could care less about physical media when there the targeted 20 something demographic 10 years from now during the next gen introductions.

kittychloe
08-31-2013, 07:10 AM
As much as I like games once they go digital I stop collecting and work backwards, as much as I love Pokemon rumble I'm passing on the ce as its just a code and a toy in a box, for the $40 it costs I can get a few older physical titles

LowlyAssassin
08-31-2013, 07:42 AM
the majority of very young school kids and teens are growing up in digital era and they could care less about physical media
Sorry
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Twisted
08-31-2013, 07:59 AM
LOL..young americans do not care..not care less.

LowlyAssassin
08-31-2013, 08:04 AM
LOL..young americans do not care..not care less.

I also believe that the "generation" of people that you are talking about whom are growing up with digital game are also the very same generation that prefer to play mobile games over full blown video game hardware and as such they will never be the target audience for dedicated (full blown) video games and video game consoles
And the majority of the gaming industry acknowledges.that the average gaming age is very ng higher/ older
And older people are playing video games (Luke the people who where 20 when the NES came out are still gaming and everyone since)

toxicatom5
08-31-2013, 06:11 PM
There's also the issue about "ce's" that don't contain the game in any form...like the borderlands diamond plate edition and the dead space 3 dev team edition. Really more memorabilia than ce, but I collect them just the same. Like others I'll probably start to turn more attention to the past (already am a little bit actually), because I think we'll see fewer editions in general as we move toward going all digital. I think these companies will figure out a way to keep me wanting to come back whether there is a code or not.

LowlyAssassin
08-31-2013, 06:16 PM
There's also the issue about "ce's" that don't contain the game in any form...like the borderlands diamond plate edition and the dead space 3 dev team edition. Really more memorabilia than ce, but I collect them just the same. Like others I'll probably start to turn more attention to the past (already am a little bit actually), because I think we'll see fewer editions in general as we move toward going all digital. I think these companies will figure out a way to keep me wanting to come back whether there is a code or not.
i like these sort of things
as then the item does not need to contain any modern rating logos or console branding and can look completely authentic to the game world or franchize