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Twisted
11-15-2011, 08:24 AM
..i was chatting up a bit with someone who works in the world of economics, and also is a savvy collector of various things, he pretty much alluded to the fact that, the video game market,..and talked about how my approach was silly when it came to "collecting" video games, and actually believeing overall, there a "good investment"..to summarize, what he said,..is that game companies and entertainment in general is heading towards digital distribution, and physical media discs are on their way out in the next few years, especially DVD and CD, in place Blu-Ray also has a shelf life remaining of about 6 years, before that medium is discontinued,..also DVD players, will be phased out, just as we see the trend of CD players, making our CD/DVD's "obsolete" and inoperable in the next 4-5 years, and of course gamemakers tend to re-release nostalgia games with updates, enhanced play and graphics for an attractive price, since most collectors editions are composed of bonus CD/DVD content, and the next gen consoles, will probably have limited backwards support if any at all,..so if we held on to our prized editions for maybe another 5-10 years?...what will become of them?..when the media disc format is obsolete? (cd/dvd?)..and if it is an extremely popular title, it will be re-made, and better than ever for a very affordable price..and ask yourselves?..is anybody really seeking out PS2?..collectors editions?..and would you pay at least what it cost, let alone top dollar?..no, of course, not..you would say..it's dated, a relic, and offer or valued maybe at 25% of original price...this is a losing game, where just pouring our money into it, and it'll give us joy for a year or two..but will we regret it 5 years from now?..we all know the next gen systems are going to be all out 2-3 years from now...when we "show off" our current collection?..is anybody really going to be moved?..or impressed?..no, it appears at first as useless junk,..when BIOSHOCK 2 collectors edition came out,..it went for $100..now a days, i see it for as little as $15...still rotting on the shelf, in the bargain bins etc...and this is a AAA current gen popular title...and it's only been out maybe 2 years?....this hobby of ours is more or less leading the way of the pied piper..:pooryou: SORRY FOR THE RANT, IT'S ALMOST 3:00 AM, AND I AM BORED AND AMPED ON RED BULL..HAHAHAHAHA :)..I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR PEOPLES THOUGHTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO KEEP GAMES SEALED, AND BELIEVE THEY TRUELY WILL INCREASE IN VALUE OVER THE LONG RUN,..(NOT ACCOUNTING FOR/OR ADJUSTING FOR INFLATION)...as opposed to those, who believe it comprises nothing more than useless junk and trinkets, and 6-12 months from now, nobody will care, unless it is extremely limited of no more than 1,000....for instance, there's a lot of hype led to believed about the sonic generations collectors edition..how it is in demand and a hot item..unfortunately,..those in the know...have said, demand has not been as much as anticipated, as where led to believe, and of course there's reasons for it not even being offered in north america, and the game itself..is selling SLOWER AND LESS than anticipated..these are all troubling signs..no matter how cool we think it is,..we are a very small minority..and sales numbers say it's not "that" cool as we think it is..meaning it won't hold tangible value, or be even worth what you paid for it down the road, hype aside..of course others could care less, and tear right into the boxes, and play with all the gadgets, and just throw them out or give them away down the road when they've become bored of them i suppose?

sleepwalker
11-15-2011, 08:51 AM
Here is one outdated and totally worthless game for you:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Yard-Fight-Nintendo-1985-10-yard-NES-NEW-NIB-/110768642780?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item19ca535adc#ht_952wt_1396

or for something a little bit more popular:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-Gear-Solid-Sony-PlayStation-black-label-new-/200606762038?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2eb5184436#ht_500wt_1413

/thread


As for myself, I do not collect to re-sell in the future, there are better ways to invest your money and have it grow faster. I collect for myself, and almost never leave anything sealed.

vhal_x
11-15-2011, 09:24 AM
I collect for my own personal enjoyment, tbh, I couldn't care less if they were worth jack shit in the future, I collect because they make me happy, so if in years I have to get rid of them and they make me some money, great, but if they don't, so be it :) xx

Twisted
11-15-2011, 10:02 AM
@thesirren...those 2 are examples of individuals who believe they can find a "sucker" to pay those prices, neither one of them is limited, and neither one of them is being purchased at those ridiculous inflated prices, in fact those are "buy it now" prices you can pull out of a horses ass...those 2 examples do not set precedent for us to consider this an "investment"...i collect because there are some really fantastic versions available in PAL territories..but i'm also a fool thinking there eventually will retain value..please show me examples of current purchase prices or bidders for anything close to that, and you will not find any...btw..this is not directed towards anybody or anyones sensitivities, i merely instigating a debate amongst those who keep games "mint and sealed".(as i also fall into that group) .in hopes it will rise in price substantially, when overwhemingly, that is NOT the case..with the exception of maybe 1 or 2 current gen titles at most, but a lot of us are collecting in the dozens..

RyT
11-15-2011, 12:20 PM
Some games will retain value while most certainly not. If you have a mint condition atari or some oldies, it will sure cost lots. When I mention some games retaining value will be those

1) a great game in that current gen, great storyline, great music, great everything
2) have a continuation of story up till recently (for example MGS)
3) a collection within collections (Final Fantasy for example)

The one I've seen sold up to 600 dollars is Sealed Final Fantasy 7 Black Label. You probably wont get Uncharted 1 2 and 3 collector's worth as much unless they make 4 5 6 7 on the new gen consoles.

To actually know if it retains value, wait another 30 years or so. :D

gurpswoo1
11-15-2011, 12:31 PM
It is far too early to say which items will be rare and sort after in the future and which will be bargin bin items. Well for current gen items anyway.

There have already been many game that have increased in value over this short period of time.

Example:
Tales of vesperia Limited Edition NTSC
Crisis 2 Nano edition PAL / NTSC
Demon Souls both editions NTSC/ PAL
infamous 1 special edition PAL
Dead Rising 1 limited Steel book edition PAL
Dead Space Ultra NTSC
Mirror Edge runner bag/steelbook edition. NTSC/PAL
Assassin creed 2 Black Edition PAL
Metal Gear solid 4 Play.com edition PAL
Yakuza 4 + ichiban Box PAL
Etc.

That is justs a small list,

I myself collect for the joy, I sometimes buy two copies from oversea version to save shipping cost but have little to no interest in selling on in the future.

Saying that it certainly good to know that I can sell on for the same or more of the original cost in the future should the need arise.

RyT
11-15-2011, 12:34 PM
Any current tales of games, will certainly increase in value.. heck you can't even find a sealed new copy in stores (AU) now.. even pre-owned lol. Ordered 2 copies, but if collector's turn up I will get 3 of that (Tales of Graces F). Now working on some cash for Tales of Xilia Console

kizeal
11-15-2011, 04:39 PM
Maybe games with less popularity, their CE price might drop, but for those popular ones it might rise over long period of times and may be regarded as GEMS where people would use alot of money to get it.

DemonATX
11-15-2011, 05:22 PM
My collection is priceless, after I pay for it of course....

I remember a Dead Space collector's edition going for something around 1300 on ebay awhile ago

Twisted
11-15-2011, 09:05 PM
in regards to dead space, that one was strictly limited to 1,000....a majority of the ones we collect are produced in hundreds of thousands.

AJLareneg
11-16-2011, 12:31 AM
I have had someone call my collection a pile of worthless junk before.

To me, it is worth whatever I value it at. I have no plans to sell it anyway, so I don't see how it matters. I do think some games will keep value, though.

kizeal
11-16-2011, 01:38 AM
well..one man's treasure is another man's trash? its hard for non-collectors to see the real value..

fattyuk
11-16-2011, 08:33 PM
I collect because I love my gaming.... not for any other reasons?

Anyone who collects purpoesly to make money isn't a collector.... that's a salesman/gambler.

ChrissyCooza1
11-16-2011, 10:19 PM
I collect games for personal enjoyment and because if I have the option to go for a standard game or a fancy version I ask myself 'why have standard when you can go one better?' but at the end of the day they are for me to open and play.

Ive had my friends come over and I have some pretty good CEs but they dont batter an eyelid cos to them its a game in a bigger box, the rest doesnt matter, I do feel that way sometimes when I look over what I have but remember the price I paid probably has the DLC price included etc but thats why I cant understand people who collect games 'sealed' your technically loosing value because you havent redeemed a voucher that is in the box which could expire in a year for DLC which would cost £7.99+ on hte Xbox Live Market or PSN Store plus your also denying another gamer from getting that DLC which is basically free via your unused voucher and denying them the chance to own that CE if only so many are made.

When I see a game like the Dead Space Ultra Edition come up I ignore it, the price people list it for is crazy for what is basically a cardboard box with some extra content and the Dead Space game which you could pick up for £10 now a days but all that content is going to waste because it is looked at once then locked away because its rare.

If you feel like that the thing to remember is: its worth something to somebody.

Onyxia
11-17-2011, 01:30 AM
Like many others, I collect because I enjoy gaming. I still buy NES games to this day. I buy for myself, not for others. Nothing beats playing the original games on the original consoles, imo. Always makes me nostalgic. :) I don't plan on selling any of it so I guess their value doesn't mean much to me. It could be worth nothing for all I care --- it's mostly the "sentimental" value that means a lot to me.

Iwatasan
11-22-2011, 02:53 PM
If you're worried about the value of your collection depreciating, I think the solution is to become a more critical consumer. Don't go out and buy every available CE because, newsflash, some of them will depreciate. The CEs that stand the test of time, at least in my limited experience, are for games with a cult following. Sometimes these games are naturally limited because they weren't popular or marketed well at retail, but because of the cult following the units become highly prized later on and their limited nature only contributes to their value.

It seems like everybody here is rather concerned about collecting for the sake of personal satisfaction, and so to them I would say set whatever goals you want to for your collection and enjoy! You know, like, don't go off the deep end and skip paying your bills or anything. But other than that have fun with it, because at that point it's not really about the money anymore.

With the games I collect I always try to get a mint sealed copy and a copy to play with. Some of the games I collect are pretty old, and let me tell you, when they come sealed they are not cheap. So this probably pokes a hole in your argument about games necessarily losing value over time. If you're smart about what you focus your collecting on, you can have a collection which easily at least maintains its value, and keeping it sealed is probably a requirement if this is what you're after.

I also seriously disagree with your friend on the digital distribution topic. I mean yeah he's right, games, music, movies, etc are all heading that direction. I'd much rather watch a movie on Netflix than go out and buy it if I know I'll probably never watch it more than a few times in my life. But this is exactly why physical copies can be so valuable, because if it's one of my favorite movies, I'd much rather feel like I own it, not like I can just watch it on Netflix whenever I want.

Do you think that when a format becomes unpopular it also loses value? Cassette tapes are probably a good example in most cases. On the other hand, I got a MOTHER 1 original soundtrack cassette tape on Yahoo Japan once that I could probably get at least a few hundred dollars for from a crazy EarthBound collector. Still works, too. And when I collect NES games I don't care that my NES has been broken for years. Since I'll keep them sealed anyway I don't even care if the games inside don't work. For me it's more about archiving a relic or something like that, I guess.

All material things decay over time. Your collection might last until you're old and gray, but how many of the games or their hardware will still work? If you're in it for the overall item, like the sealed copies I collect, that doesn't matter. But say I hand my collection down to my hypothetical kids someday. If they don't throw them out or ruin them or sell them off, maybe they'll pass them down to their kids. Several generations later, do you think the collection will still be intact? Or will it just be a pile of dust and bits of plastic and circuit boards? If it magically holds up over time, will anyone even care about it, will it be relevant to society in hundreds of years, let alone valuable?

When you think about things in the LONG term, it starts to make you wonder. The longest lasting and most valuable physical media is going to be the sealed and preserved stuff, but you'll never know when the games inside stop working. If you don't care about the value or longevity, buy any game you want and open it and play it and have fun with it like it was meant for, but hope that you don't find out later it would have been very valuable had you kept it sealed. If playing the game is ALL you care about, digital is the way to go, and it's really the only way to preserve something indefinitely. But you can't collect it ;)

fattyuk
11-22-2011, 08:46 PM
Fingers crossed my valuable item will be my uncharted 1 press kit lol

twistedsymphony
11-22-2011, 09:40 PM
The value of anything is always a direct relationship between availability and desirability (aka: supply and demand).

The reason games drop in value shortly after release is because shortly after release their desirability drops (people have completed the game/moved on to other games) and the availability increases (people are selling their copies used while there might still be new copies for sale too)

Given a long enough timeline the value of any product will INCREASE.

Eventually the game will no longer be produced, and the availability of good condition/new sealed examples will decrease, this will help drive the value back UP.

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Collector's Edition releases will almost always hold their value better than standard editions because fewer of them were produced and production stops sooner (hence the supply is shorter).


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Some games, some editions will be worth more than others and this is controlled by availability and desirability.

if you want to know if a game will increase in value or decrease in value ask yourself this
-will people still be talking about and wanting to play THIS specific game 20-30 years from now?
-will the popularity of the game increase after release or decrease after release?
-was the game hyped up a lot before release?

the answers to those 3 questions will pretty much determine the value of the game down the road.

lets look at Bioshock 2:
- in 20-30 years I doubt anyone will give a sh*t... they might care about Bioshock 1 but people have already forgotten about BS2
- the popularity took a nose dive after release when people realized it paled in comparison to the first game
- the game was hyped up a ton before release

now lets look at Dead Space:
- in 20-30 years I think people will still be talking about the first Dead Space, it was a unique game and spawned a now popular franchise
- the popularity has increased after release when people realized it was good. Also the second game was good which brought new interest and fans to the first game.
- the game was barely hyped before release which meant sales expectations were low as were initial production numbers were low.

not even looking the CE releases the regular first edition releases
Bioshock 2: gets about $16: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bioshock-2-XBOX-360-NEW-SEALED-/110773221102?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item19ca9936ee
Dead Space 1: gets about $45: http://www.ebay.com/itm/XBOX-360-Dead-Space-1-NEW-Factory-Sealed-Original-White-Label-FUN-LOOK-RARE-/330633878100?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item4cfb509a54

Twisted
11-25-2011, 06:51 AM
i agree with the majority of your statements twistedsymphony..but how many of us have the patience to wait around 20 or 30 years?.:p..plus in 20 years time majority of disc based items will be obsolete if not long gone..30 years out, our current game systems won't even be compatible with the current gen tv's at that time..so even if you found that "old relic ps3 from 25-30 years ago"...chances are it' won't work,..if you need parts, there gonna be hard to come by, and how would you ever play it?..those hdmi cables outlets will be prehistoric,.etc..disclaimer:i personally love collecting..it's fun..i'm just playing devil's advocate here..with what i am sharing is what people have said to me, or i have read in the media...so i'm not trying to belittle anybody's collection..i'm also a sealed collector,..just for purpose of debate..and just do'ing a little thinking about how much are games will truely be worth?..in an age of all digital media on the horizen, and remakes in HD being churned out left and right, imagine the state of digital downloads 10 years from now, let alone 20..and imagine HD in the next decade..our stuff will be left behind,..perhaps..we live in the moment?.lol.and it gives us joy..but some here..are buying games, and getting them graded, thinking somebody would want to play it..but are going to pay a gazillion dollars for theres, when the new hd remake, will be 10x better at that time, and cost 1/100th of what we feel our editions will be worth..so it would be very very hard to put a value on our editions and find a market for them in the future..again, i know some collect and use for personal enjoyment, besides that, there are people here collecting thinking it will make them money in the future..and others like me..who just needed a hobby and found some really neat looking editions abroad..that were missing out on here in the US :)

vhal_x
11-25-2011, 03:10 PM
i agree with the majority of your statements twistedsymphony..but how many of us have the patience to wait around 20 or 30 years?.:p..plus in 20 years time majority of disc based items will be obsolete if not long gone..30 years out, our current game systems won't even be compatible with the current gen tv's at that time..so even if you found that "old relic ps3 from 25-30 years ago"...chances are it' won't work,..if you need parts, there gonna be hard to come by, and how would you ever play it?..those hdmi cables outlets will be prehistoric,.etc..disclaimer:i personally love collecting..it's fun..i'm just playing devil's advocate here..with what i am sharing is what people have said to me, or i have read in the media...so i'm not trying to belittle anybody's collection..i'm also a sealed collector,..just for purpose of debate..and just do'ing a little thinking about how much are games will truely be worth?..in an age of all digital media on the horizen, and remakes in HD being churned out left and right, imagine the state of digital downloads 10 years from now, let alone 20..and imagine HD in the next decade..our stuff will be left behind,..perhaps..we live in the moment?.lol.and it gives us joy..but some here..are buying games, and getting them graded, thinking somebody would want to play it..but are going to pay a gazillion dollars for theres, when the new hd remake, will be 10x better at that time, and cost 1/100th of what we feel our editions will be worth..so it would be very very hard to put a value on our editions and find a market for them in the future..again, i know some collect and use for personal enjoyment, besides that, there are people here collecting thinking it will make them money in the future..and others like me..who just needed a hobby and found some really neat looking editions abroad..that were missing out on here in the US :)

I understand what your are saying Twisted, but I have to agree with TwistedSymphony :)

Most of us collectors aren't going to just wait the 20-30 years for our items to appreciate for that fact alone, it will just happen naturally, as I'm guessing for most of us, this is a lifelong passion - so it's not like we will just keep a hold of items in the hope that they will be worth more - it's that we will still have them to look at and play with and display and basically just enjoy for the 20-30 years, and if they go up in value, then great, but if they don't then, so be it.

Who's to say that they will be obsolete? Look at the retro consoles we have now, Ataris, SNES, N64, etc, our current gen consoles are the N64's of the future - if people are interested in retro consoles now, it shows that there will no doubt be people interested in the retro consoles in the future, and will find some means of playing it, such as owning older model televisions, (if HDMI ports do become obsolete, but I don't really think they will, but I could be wrong)

And yes, HD remakes may come out in the future, but that doesn't mean that in all cases the originals lose all the value that they have gained, take Zelda for instance, remakes have been made of some Zelda games, Ocarina of Time for instance, for the 3DS, but the older-gen N64 copies still sell extremely well online, and are very sought after (especially when still in boxes, mint condition and even more so, when sealed).

I feel like I'm rambling, but I'm just trying to show that in the future, chances are, people will look for older editions/consoles, etc - just as we do now, so even though we cannot determine a future price or determine how sought after certain items will be, it is more likely than not that our items, if kept in mint condition, will appreciate in value anyway.

My editions will certainly appreciate, maybe not to others, but their value to me will keep rising - hence why I'll never sell them - as they are something I hold dear to me.

*Okay V, shut up now*

Haha, I'll leave it there!

Saturn
11-25-2011, 06:03 PM
I just realized there are two twisted members in the forums =).

People have been collecting coins and stamps and art pieces and everything else for ages. Some lose value, others become treasures. It doesn't matter if digital distribution is going to kill the market because it will not undo what's already done and sold and existed at a certain time in history. In the worst possible scenario, it's worth for the joy of collecting =).

Twisted
11-26-2011, 04:55 AM
..yeah..when i first registered i had no idea "twisted" was being used in some form..until i was "welcomed" onto the site as a registered member i saw that'.the owner was twistedsymphany..

themidlandmaster
11-26-2011, 03:08 PM
Some will hold vale, most wont. I buy for my personal enjoyment

rapister
05-28-2013, 02:15 PM
well.... not all economic predictions will be correct
one would be worried if he or she is keeping stuff to make a profit
if its for personal enjoyment, then no worries :)

HIPPEEDUDE
05-28-2013, 05:55 PM
As it stands for this generation & the last generation CE,LE or even standard games will hold some value to someone somewhere. Its as simple as that. How much value is a different story & a constant variable,if as already has pointed out its a game or genre with a cult following there will always be some form of demand for it. Look at Star Wars for example,that has one huge cult following & some of the collectors will pay top dollar for things simply because they are sealed or just hard to find. Some Star Wars games & CE still go for a fair amount of money. The original Xbox Star Wars games still get a good price for them from both collectors of Star Wars & video games.

Some of my stuff is sealed,some of its not. Things that are sealed are kept that way simply as i have no need to open it that i can think of so it sits on the shelf. At the moment,i am trying to see if i can get every single original Xbox game made starting with the PAL versions first. I am not doing this to make a profit,i am doing this firstly because i think it would be cool to look at a wall full of games & know i have every single one made. Secondly,i know that sooner or later some of these games will just either cease to be around at all for whatever reason or be so hard to find its ridiculous. So by doing this,to me its simply me preserving a part of history,the history of gaming.

In regards to the next gen Xbox One & PS4,simply put we are completely screwed. If used games cant be used on your own console without having to go online,which sooner or later will cease to exist these games will be worthless. If you cant just put a disc into any machine what good will they be. You would have to have a console the game came from & hope the console never dies if you ever wanted to part with your collection for any reason. If you dont have it or it dont work,then all those used games would be worthless. What about new games,just as worthless if the online servers cease to exist & you have to be online to activate them etc. Next gen is possibly where video game collecting may meet its end unfortunately.

My two cents,peace out:D

SwiftDeath
05-28-2013, 05:58 PM
In regards to the next gen Xbox One & PS4,simply put we are completely screwed. If used games cant be used on your own console without having to go online,which sooner or later will cease to exist these games will be worthless. If you cant just put a disc into any machine what good will they be. You would have to have a console the game came from & hope the console never dies if you ever wanted to part with your collection for any reason. If you dont have it or it dont work,then all those used games would be worthless. What about new games,just as worthless if the online servers cease to exist & you have to be online to activate them etc. Next gen is possibly where video game collecting may meet its end unfortunately.

My two cents,peace out:D

I am of a similar mind

If DRM exists on both new systems (X1 and PS4) then we are not buying games so much as renting them for as long as the activation servers remain active

As you said, once those servers go so do the games unless they remove the authentication procedure but I cannot imagine MS being that benevolent

I think we are coming to the tailend of the golden age of collecting but that's just my thoughts of course

HIPPEEDUDE
05-28-2013, 06:18 PM
I am of a similar mind

If DRM exists on both new systems (X1 and PS4) then we are not buying games so much as renting them for as long as the activation servers remain active

As you said, once those servers go so do the games unless they remove the authentication procedure but I cannot imagine MS being that benevolent

I think we are coming to the tailend of the golden age of collecting but that's just my thoughts of course

The servers going offline will be the nail in a games coffin. The second Steel Battalion for the original xbox for example,fantastic game & ahead of its time really. Problem is its an online only game & as no more online access is available its simply a dust collector that has no use except as an ornament. This,to me is just one example & theres plenty more of a great game now rendered completely useless simply because it has no online access available anymore. If this is what the future will hold for all games from now on,again we will be simply completely & utterly screwed sooner or later. The golden age of collecting may yet continue,only if we can use a disc on any console & only if we dont need online access. Until further details are forthcoming,video game collecting as we know it is on the edge of a cliff,by the years end we will know if we have been pulled away from the cliff or shoved over the side with no remorse:(

comaamen86
05-28-2013, 09:55 PM
its all cheaply made plastic tat before we get it

the fact that many people like it adds the value

i collect for personal enjoyment so no worries here

Platfus
05-28-2013, 10:13 PM
Hipee waited about a month. Couldnt resist anymore and writes long posts again :D

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comaamen86
05-29-2013, 04:32 AM
Hipee waited about a month. Couldnt resist anymore and writes long posts again :D

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:rotf: yeah

HIPPEEDUDE
05-29-2013, 06:48 AM
Hipee waited about a month. Couldnt resist anymore and writes long posts again :D

Sent from my P350 Cyanogenmod 7 using Tapatalk

Just waited until i had something intellectually stimulating to say rather than the normal verbal diarrhea that is an irregular occurance:P

MadMan5
05-30-2013, 06:37 AM
As it stands for this generation & the last generation CE,LE or even standard games will hold some value to someone somewhere. Its as simple as that. How much value is a different story & a constant variable,if as already has pointed out its a game or genre with a cult following there will always be some form of demand for it. Look at Star Wars for example,that has one huge cult following & some of the collectors will pay top dollar for things simply because they are sealed or just hard to find. Some Star Wars games & CE still go for a fair amount of money. The original Xbox Star Wars games still get a good price for them from both collectors of Star Wars & video games.

Some of my stuff is sealed,some of its not. Things that are sealed are kept that way simply as i have no need to open it that i can think of so it sits on the shelf. At the moment,i am trying to see if i can get every single original Xbox game made starting with the PAL versions first. I am not doing this to make a profit,i am doing this firstly because i think it would be cool to look at a wall full of games & know i have every single one made. Secondly,i know that sooner or later some of these games will just either cease to be around at all for whatever reason or be so hard to find its ridiculous. So by doing this,to me its simply me preserving a part of history,the history of gaming.

In regards to the next gen Xbox One & PS4,simply put we are completely screwed. If used games cant be used on your own console without having to go online,which sooner or later will cease to exist these games will be worthless. If you cant just put a disc into any machine what good will they be. You would have to have a console the game came from & hope the console never dies if you ever wanted to part with your collection for any reason. If you dont have it or it dont work,then all those used games would be worthless. What about new games,just as worthless if the online servers cease to exist & you have to be online to activate them etc. Next gen is possibly where video game collecting may meet its end unfortunately.

My two cents,peace out:D
Interesting wanting to having every game made good luck to you in you quest, So how many do you have and what is the target to get. Well we can only wait and see what the game play is if CE became like the Dead Space 3 CE stuff but no disc but a code to download game would you still collect. I think people would but the separation of game and items would kill it for most, un-boxings on Youtube will never be the same. Like Apple with iTunes not brought a song off it yet. I'm old school went to the record shop on a Saturday would spend hours there nodding my head my point is you children's, children won't see CE as they have been in the past so in that will you collection be worth something in the long run that is a good question.

HIPPEEDUDE
05-30-2013, 10:03 AM
Interesting wanting to having every game made good luck to you in you quest, So how many do you have and what is the target to get. Well we can only wait and see what the game play is if CE became like the Dead Space 3 CE stuff but no disc but a code to download game would you still collect. I think people would but the separation of game and items would kill it for most, un-boxings on Youtube will never be the same. Like Apple with iTunes not brought a song off it yet. I'm old school went to the record shop on a Saturday would spend hours there nodding my head my point is you children's, children won't see CE as they have been in the past so in that will you collection be worth something in the long run that is a good question.

At the moment only about 260 & have about another 700 to go:(

Sand4fish
06-01-2013, 12:43 AM
Retro games in general hold up their value pretty well and only tend to go up in the future. The problem with current generation gaming is that the term "limited edition" is pretty much coined to every game. If you want a safe bet investing in the short term, buy only editions that are numbered or limited to a certain amount, preferably less than 10,000. Other than that, buy only games which IP's are new (safe bet on console exclusives) but stay away from big companies like naughty dog and konami, as they have the cash to mass produce and advertise their product. Demon's Souls, a ps3 exclusive coming from a rather small publisher (Atlus), has high prices for their special editions and first edition on ebay though the game has been re-released in the market as "ps3 greatest hits".

SwiftDeath
06-01-2013, 12:47 AM
Retro games in general hold up their value pretty well and only tend to go up in the future. The problem with current generation gaming is that the term "limited edition" is pretty much coined to every game. If you want a safe bet investing in the short term, buy only editions that are numbered or limited to a certain amount, preferably less than 10,000. Other than that, buy only games which IP's are new (safe bet on console exclusives) but stay away from big companies like naughty dog and konami, as they have the cash to mass produce and advertise their product. Demon's Souls, a ps3 exclusive coming from a rather small publisher (Atlus), has high prices for their special editions and first edition on ebay though the game has been re-released in the market as "ps3 greatest hits".

I'm actually rather curious what people think will happen to retro stuff in the next 10 - 15 years

Usual argument for the increase in retro prices is that people who played the games when they were young are now in their 30's 40's and want to collect that which they loved when they were young

So given enough time will retro stuff go down in price as those who played it as a kid get too old and younger generations don't care as much?

Or will each new generation produce retro collectors and enough to keep the prices on the rise?

HIPPEEDUDE
06-01-2013, 01:49 AM
I'm actually rather curious what people think will happen to retro stuff in the next 10 - 15 years

Usual argument for the increase in retro prices is that people who played the games when they were young are now in their 30's 40's and want to collect that which they loved when they were young

So given enough time will retro stuff go down in price as those who played it as a kid get too old and younger generations don't care as much?

Or will each new generation produce retro collectors and enough to keep the prices on the rise?

Good point but i think theres a few retro collectors out there that didnt grow up with the older games & consoles who still apreciate them for one reason or another.
If you make a comparison to toy collectors for arguements sake,theres a lot of younger generation collecting the old toys,not because they grew up with them but because they are a fan of something in particular or again appreciate them for one reason or another

Sand4fish
06-01-2013, 03:27 AM
I'm actually rather curious what people think will happen to retro stuff in the next 10 - 15 years

Usual argument for the increase in retro prices is that people who played the games when they were young are now in their 30's 40's and want to collect that which they loved when they were young

So given enough time will retro stuff go down in price as those who played it as a kid get too old and younger generations don't care as much?

Or will each new generation produce retro collectors and enough to keep the prices on the rise?

I think relevance is the key factor. Famicom (Nintendo 8 bits) and super famicom will always stay relevant because of Nintendo's branding, with its key IP's still in play on the today's current generation. Not so much for Jaguar or 3DO, though they are still expensive to get and likely hit their bottom value.
Actually retro gaming is in a kind of renaissance state at the moment, thanks to Xbox live, PSN and Nintendo eshop. And I think it will continue to gain popularity in future generations as well.

geralds
06-01-2013, 06:15 PM
At the moment only about 260 & have about another 700 to go:(

Lol I know serveral collectors who own ever single american xbox game. Xbox is nothing to get to excited over at least in the american market there not any high dollar game so just spending the time it could easily be done. There more gamecube games that command higher prices then then anything on xbox.

HIPPEEDUDE
06-02-2013, 01:34 AM
Lol I know serveral collectors who own ever single american xbox game. Xbox is nothing to get to excited over at least in the american market there not any high dollar game so just spending the time it could easily be done. There more gamecube games that command higher prices then then anything on xbox.

Its different between countries,more games were produced for America than anywhere else that i am aware of. So theres more games still around,even some of the games that were banned or recalled in the US can be found cheap. With PAL format theres a but load of games that arent easy to find anywhere because either less were produced,making it rarer or werent released in certain PAL regions making it harder to get sometimes

comaamen86
06-02-2013, 04:02 PM
yes, yes they will