Do not support the vga!

[SwiftDeath]

Originally Posted by Twisted

i think the glory days of game collecting in order to profit are behind us..cartridge based games were more involved in manufacturering so overall there are less of them out there as compared to cd/dvd based games..which they can rapidly produce...so i guess like for every 1 cartridge they produce..10 cd/dvd games are made in the same amount of time..so if people think cd/dvd based sealed games will be just as rare potentially as sealed cartridges could be considered rare these days is sorely mistaken.

I also believe that today's games will be less rare/valuable in the future because people understand their collectible nature far better.

Back in the days of cartridges, people didn't realise there would one day be collectors going after all those games and looking for sealed copies or understand how much they might one day be worth.

People threw away packaging and beat the crap out of their stuff. Finding things minty from that era is, I'm sure, a true challenge.

[Lizard Slayer]

I use VGA's service as well as buy games that have already been graded and I am glad they do what they do.

I collect sealed games (among other video game/movie items) and I am picky about the condition of the items in my collection so having them graded so that they do not get damaged is a good deal for me. I (and others like me) am willing to pay a little extra for a VGA game because I know it is in good condition and despite what the OP says, I also feel confident that it is a legit factory seal. They are not perfect, no company is, but if you do some research you will find very few games that have any kind of grading mistake on VGA's part.

As far as all the hate posted by the OP, I get the feeling there is something more to all this than just some random hatred, where did this come from in the first place?

[Madigan]

Finally a VGA user.

Who graded your games (and the ones you bought) and where?

[Lizard Slayer]

Originally Posted by Madigan

Finally a VGA user.

Who graded your games (and the ones you bought) and where?

I guess I don't get what you guys really want here? It is like asking who cooked your burger at mcdonalds, how would I know who cooked it? Do you want to stand behind a window and watch your game placed in a plastic box and signed by the guy doing it? I have seen enough examples and done enough research to trust what they do, I am not interested in convincing people to grade games as I could care less if the next guy thinks "OMG!!! its ruining the hobby!!!!!" or if he is grading games and reselling for a profit, it's not my problem. I like the look of the cases and I feel it adds a level of protection to them and if I trusted my measuring skills more I would be more inclined to buy custom cases simply for storage.

I understand why people are not interested in using the service, what I do not understand is why some people get bent out of shape about it and call other collectors "idiots" and other names just because they do not think exactly like they do, why do you even care?

[Madigan]

So you don't know who graded your item and his experience? You don't know his name, nothing?

the burger analogy is awesome.

[Lizard Slayer]

Originally Posted by Madigan

So you don't know who graded your item and his experience? You don't know his name, nothing?

the burger analogy is awesome.

Nope.

Edit: I know the owner is named Chad and I have spoken with him before, and I typically deal with Kim as do most people.

[Twisted]

what if ONE OF US is VGA?.....or it get's discovered and it's rocked my some scandal..turns out VGA is nothing more than a teen age kid living in his parents basement..hahahahaha

[Madigan]

Originally Posted by Twisted

what if ONE OF US is VGA?.....or it get's discovered and it's rocked my some scandal..turns out VGA is nothing more than a teen age kid living in his parents basement..hahahahaha

[LonestarGoner]

Madigan....I think I love you a little bit for posting that picture. History Channel, you used to be so awesome, and now you have, um....that guy.

Lizard Slayer, the "hate" comes from the VGA misrepresenting themselves. They are not appraisers. Real appraisal in the antique collectible market is EXACTLY like appraisal in the real estate market. It comes with a legal obligation. If an antique appraiser, for example, over-assesses an item, the insurance on said item skyrockets. If that item were to be damaged and they insurance company investigates before pay-out and the item is found to be over-assessed, the appraiser may be found to have committed fraud and can possibly be sued.

Disk games may be cheaper to manufacture than cartridges, but with the variety of extras and bonuses, collecting will be big business, ESPECIALLY when games go all digital, which is very likely. Kiss collector's editions goodbye. EA, Squenix, Activision aren't going to send you fancy trinkets along with a download code. It will all be data, nothing you can touch. Building a dedicated appraisal house will be necessary not only to make sure charlatans like VGA don't continue to bilk unsuspecting collectors, but also to keep the joy of physical collections and collecting alive when games become nothing more than a phantom transaction over a net connection.

I'm not much of a blogger, but I think putting information out there might help build a forum and consensus. As one person mentioned, we have a worldwide community here, but doing it all over pictures is not reasonable. If anyone is interested, I'll post a line either here or in a new thread with a link once I get a blog up and running.

[Lizard Slayer]

Originally Posted by LonestarGoner

Madigan....I think I love you a little bit for posting that picture. History Channel, you used to be so awesome, and now you have, um....that guy.

Lizard Slayer, the "hate" comes from the VGA misrepresenting themselves. They are not appraisers. Real appraisal in the antique collectible market is EXACTLY like appraisal in the real estate market. It comes with a legal obligation. If an antique appraiser, for example, over-assesses an item, the insurance on said item skyrockets. If that item were to be damaged and they insurance company investigates before pay-out and the item is found to be over-assessed, the appraiser may be found to have committed fraud and can possibly be sued.

Disk games may be cheaper to manufacture than cartridges, but with the variety of extras and bonuses, collecting will be big business, ESPECIALLY when games go all digital, which is very likely. Kiss collector's editions goodbye. EA, Squenix, Activision aren't going to send you fancy trinkets along with a download code. It will all be data, nothing you can touch. Building a dedicated appraisal house will be necessary not only to make sure charlatans like VGA don't continue to bilk unsuspecting collectors, but also to keep the joy of physical collections and collecting alive when games become nothing more than a phantom transaction over a net connection.

I'm not much of a blogger, but I think putting information out there might help build a forum and consensus. As one person mentioned, we have a worldwide community here, but doing it all over pictures is not reasonable. If anyone is interested, I'll post a line either here or in a new thread with a link once I get a blog up and running.

VGA does not appraise (when talking about what an item is worth) anything so this does not make sense....

I agree with the History channel guy though, lol.

Do you guys have some examples of things they have done incorrectly?