Last CE/LE/SE you purchased or got

[mosavon]

Good deal, my first Dead Island came wrapped in paper, it was snapped

[Redmagster]

You've all got to remember... This is learned stuff not a basic human understanding...

I have had steelbook editions delivered with utterly battered steels and a row ensues with the seller who thought that 'because the disc was immaculate that was all buyers cared about'....

You gotta think that if steels and CE bits were universally accepted as having a high value no one would get a good deal ever...

It has got to be really specific - most sellers genuinely believe they have gone the extra mile for you... Most are not resellers who understand collectors and are trying to describe stuff very precisely they are average joes who just don't see items like we do. Don't give them a hard time... They really don't get it and why would they...

Give them very specific instructions and offer to pay the difference if it costs more... Most have only sold a handful of items and maybe all their others survived the journey in a piece of tissue...

[SwiftDeath]

Originally Posted by Redmagster

You've all got to remember... This is learned stuff not a basic human understanding...

I have had steelbook editions delivered with utterly battered steels and a row ensues with the seller who thought that 'because the disc was immaculate that was all buyers cared about'....

You gotta think that if steels and CE bits were universally accepted as having a high value no one would get a good deal ever...

It has got to be really specific - most sellers genuinely believe they have gone the extra mile for you... Most are not resellers who understand collectors and are trying to describe stuff very precisely they are average joes who just don't see items like we do. Don't give them a hard time... They really don't get it and why would they...

Give them very specific instructions and offer to pay the difference if it costs more... Most have only sold a handful of items and maybe all their others survived the journey in a piece of tissue...

Yeah this is true

And it wouldn't bother me IF they at all listened to my suggestions/requests for packing

I accept that most people out there don't know how to properly pack things

It sucks but it's the way things are

Just wish they would listen to me

[Redmagster]

Originally Posted by SwiftDeath

Yeah this is true

And it wouldn't bother me IF they at all listened to my suggestions/requests for packing

I accept that most people out there don't know how to properly pack things

It sucks but it's the way things are

Just wish they would listen to me

I know and it does suck... And I now understand why it is possible to get a great deal at auction from a 'novice' - you are really paying for the risk... Sometimes, many times, it pays off but other times its a hassle and it sucks...

Whatever your instructions no one will understand like a fellow collector.... You buy from someone with long feedback for dealing with collectibles and you have a right to be livid when they get it wrong. Deal with a one off seller and you are courting trouble

I have worked out over time the majority of ebay users have the iq of tomatoes... Then there are the wonderful exceptions...

[Zaku77]

Originally Posted by Redmagster

You've all got to remember... This is learned stuff not a basic human understanding...

I have had steelbook editions delivered with utterly battered steels and a row ensues with the seller who thought that 'because the disc was immaculate that was all buyers cared about'....

You gotta think that if steels and CE bits were universally accepted as having a high value no one would get a good deal ever...

It has got to be really specific - most sellers genuinely believe they have gone the extra mile for you... Most are not resellers who understand collectors and are trying to describe stuff very precisely they are average joes who just don't see items like we do. Don't give them a hard time... They really don't get it and why would they...

Give them very specific instructions and offer to pay the difference if it costs more... Most have only sold a handful of items and maybe all their others survived the journey in a piece of tissue...

I could understand that except for one key detail (in my dealings at least):

I always send a message before buying asking them to carefully look it over for any scratches/dents/dings/missing paint. I tell them that I am very, very fussy and I want them to please scrutinize it very carefully. I also tell them to wrap it in a generous amount of extra bubble wrap because they are very fragile and I don't want it getting damaged at all. There is NO excuse for them still royally mucking it up.

Even if I didn't do that, though. Regardless of understanding collectors or not, shouldn't it be common practice to send things in a way so that they don't get damaged? That just seems like basic level business. Like the people that send boxed games in a padded envelope. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the tiniest amount of pressure will result in major damage to the product. You don't have to understand the mentality of your buyer, but it is the seller's job to deliver the item in the same condition that it was sold in. That goes for items in any category.

You take my second paragraph and add it into my first paragraph about blatantly spelling it out for them, and there is less than no excuse for all the damaged products I am constantly receiving and having to deal with.

[Redmagster]

Originally Posted by Zaku77

I could understand that except for one key detail (in my dealings at least):

I always send a message before buying asking them to carefully look it over for any scratches/dents/dings/missing paint. I tell them that I am very, very fussy and I want them to please scrutinize it very carefully. I also tell them to wrap it in a generous amount of extra bubble wrap because they are very fragile and I don't want it getting damaged at all. There is NO excuse for them still royally mucking it up.

Even if I didn't do that, though. Regardless of understanding collectors or not, shouldn't it be common practice to send things in a way so that they don't get damaged? That just seems like basic level business. Like the people that send boxed games in a padded envelope. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the tiniest amount of pressure will result in major damage to the product. You don't have to understand the mentality of your buyer, but it is the seller's job to deliver the item in the same condition that it was sold in. That goes for items in any category.

You take my second paragraph and add it into my first paragraph about blatantly spelling it out for them, and there is less than no excuse for all the damaged products I am constantly receiving and having to deal with.

With the detail you give there is no excuse...

On your other point 'it doesn't take a genius' sadly ebay is populated by those whose brain cell took a walk long ago cos it got lonely....

[LowlyAssassin]

Originally Posted by Zaku77

I could understand that except for one key detail (in my dealings at least):

I always send a message before buying asking them to carefully look it over for any scratches/dents/dings/missing paint. I tell them that I am very, very fussy and I want them to please scrutinize it very carefully. I also tell them to wrap it in a generous amount of extra bubble wrap because they are very fragile and I don't want it getting damaged at all. There is NO excuse for them still royally mucking it up.

Even if I didn't do that, though. Regardless of understanding collectors or not, shouldn't it be common practice to send things in a way so that they don't get damaged? That just seems like basic level business. Like the people that send boxed games in a padded envelope. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the tiniest amount of pressure will result in major damage to the product. You don't have to understand the mentality of your buyer, but it is the seller's job to deliver the item in the same condition that it was sold in. That goes for items in any category.

You take my second paragraph and add it into my first paragraph about blatantly spelling it out for them, and there is less than no excuse for all the damaged products I am constantly receiving and having to deal with.

Me going
To the majority of the world at a consumer level and a retail level and often at a supplier and manufacture level
The content s of the package is the item that is of value and therefore the item that must at all costs not get damaged
Therefore
The box, any seal or shrink wrap, internal packaging is not as important and can receive a moderate amount t of damage as long as it still functions and does its job
Its job is to endure the safe arrival of the product inside
So trying to make sure the item arrives undamaged is easy as the original box it came in was designed to ensure that happened already

You have to explain that the condition of the item is more important then the actual item or items within the package
The external appearance is the most important thing to you, and if it becomes damaged in any way how ever minor, be it a tiny 1 mm dent to a corner or a tiny 1 mm fold along one edge then you will not be happy
And will have to leave bad feedback if your packing guidelines where not adhered too

[Redmagster]

Originally Posted by LowlyAssassin

Me going
To the majority of the world at a consumer level and a retail level and often at a supplier and manufacture level
The content s of the package is the item that is of value and therefore the item that must at all costs not get damaged
Therefore
The box, any seal or shrink wrap, internal packaging is not as important and can receive a moderate amount t of damage as long as it still functions and does its job
Its job is to endure the safe arrival of the product inside
So trying to make sure the item arrives undamaged is easy as the original box it came in was designed to ensure that happened already

You have to explain that the condition of the item is more important then the actual item or items within the package
The external appearance is the most important thing to you, and if it becomes damaged in any way how ever minor, be it a tiny 1 mm dent to a corner or a tiny 1 mm fold along one edge then you will not be happy
And will have to leave bad feedback if your packing guidelines where not adhered too

When you consider that many of us have recently received Ellie CEs from Game in Jiffy bags with crushed cardboard outers and can either return for a refund but no replacement as they are sold out or an on to the battered up box what lead do these user sellers have to follow?!?

[LowlyAssassin]

Originally Posted by Redmagster

When you consider that many of us have recently received Ellie CEs from Game in Jiffy bags with crushed cardboard outers and can either return for a refund but no replacement as they are sold out or an on to the battered up box what lead do these user sellers have to follow?!?

Sorry I didn't understand
I saw the question marks
But didn't understand what the question is
So I am hoping it was a rhetorical question

[Redmagster]

Originally Posted by LowlyAssassin

Sorry I didn't understand
I saw the question marks
But didn't understand what the question is
So I am hoping it was a rhetorical question

Yup... Purely rhetorical....