Dark Souls II

[Zaku77]

Originally Posted by LyricalOne

I completely agree with your thoughts! (and Zaku's of course)

I feel ever since Demon Souls, they have just kept taking steps backwards; trying to appeal to the masses.

I actually preferred Dark Souls to Demon's. The character had more heft in Dark Souls. When you wore armor, you really 'felt' the armor, and I really dig that. It was also extremely well designed and dripping with atmosphere. Honestly, though, the main reason I prefer it to Demon's Souls is that the world is interconnected. I find that far more immersive than a hub world with 'levels'.

That's a small thing in the scheme of things, though, and they're both super high quality games!

[LyricalOne]

Originally Posted by Zaku77

I actually preferred Dark Souls to Demon's. The character had more heft in Dark Souls. When you wore armor, you really 'felt' the armor, and I really dig that. It was also extremely well designed and dripping with atmosphere. Honestly, though, the main reason I prefer it to Demon's Souls is that the world is interconnected. I find that far more immersive than a hub world with 'levels'.

That's a small thing in the scheme of things, though, and they're both super high quality games!

I can't argue with that. The fact that it was now 1 world instead of the hub did help make the game's story have more depth. I just felt the gameplay has degrated ever so slowly. I know it was said to be ruthless and hard, but that was a huge appeal to me. The barely no tutorial was actually kind of cool. Learn as you go sort of game.

But yes, Dark Souls improved on Demon, although I probably just prefer Demon because I played it first and I found it a bit more challenging overall.

[Zaku77]

Originally Posted by LyricalOne

I can't argue with that. The fact that it was now 1 world instead of the hub did help make the game's story have more depth. I just felt the gameplay has degrated ever so slowly. I know it was said to be ruthless and hard, but that was a huge appeal to me. The barely no tutorial was actually kind of cool. Learn as you go sort of game.

But yes, Dark Souls improved on Demon, although I probably just prefer Demon because I played it first and I found it a bit more challenging overall.

Go play Demon's Souls again; I'd be willing to bet you find it easier now. The one thing that can make Demon's Souls SUPER hard--like way beyond Dark Souls--is not understanding the World Tendency system and getting your worlds down near pure black. Having all the enemies and NPCs be black phantom versions is just not nice. I remember purposely getting certain worlds down to that to get certain items for the platinum, and it was just ridiculous. I can't image trying to play the game that way lol.

[underfox]

THere are 2 things I hate in Demons souls.

1º Maneater , the boss isn't a pain in the ass because it is hard, it is hard because you have the first maneater that once he pounce off the bridge ( 90% of the time) he flying around for 1 minute rarely coming down at all and if he does, it is to walk out of the bridge and fly some more, then the second maneater comes and you have run around the middle flame thing with 2 maneaters almost full hp.

2º valley of defilement ( worst level design of any souls game ) almost every 4 or 5 meter you have the camera beeing pushed by something ( moving your character in a diferente direction instantly ) or when fighting, it places it self behind wood planks or any kind of environmental mesh and therefor you can't see S*** I swear I got traumatized by this world, when I got to blightown in dark souls, I thought it was going to be valley of defilement all over again ( good god it wasn't )

And those 2 things are the reason I kinda prefer Dark Souls