Statues & Figures Thread - Any & All Game Related

[flatout]

Originally Posted by Mar-l-Aoutat

I really want this GOW diorama but it will be too expensive from P1 direct.

That is so dumb they do that. Does not make sense that they would charge more overall then a retailer.

Man things like this that hurt the consumer that make no sense really piss me off. It's like... why?

Hope you find a better option... sucks that your only option is the most expensive.


I like the statues too but I know they are far out of my league in terms of cost.

[Mike1888]

I too have been priced out of new P1 pieces because of shipping cost. I went to order the 1/3 Guts and the shipping was over $500 CAD lol. SS has shipped (smaller) 1/3's to me for around $100 - and they get here in 1 day.

Kratos' new character design doesn't really do it for me when it comes to statues so passing on this one isn't too difficult. Really hoping they can bring shipping costs down for Canada before any FF7 or Persona statues go up for preorder. Plus I saw they also announced an Aloy (Horizon Zero Dawn) statue.

[Ozzy101]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

You guys should check for local retailers. It's quite cheaper than ordering from oversees.
Btw. I cannot recommend ordering via Sideshow because they seem to be in clinch with P1 right now. Something is going on and customers are the ones paying for it sadly.

Shioktoys.com from Malaysia is a good source. The owner is super nice and close friends with P1.

Other than that, P1 is trying to implement cheaper shipping methods right now. US customers have very good cheap option, but the rest of the world is still work in progress. (They are also working on US and EU warehouses)

Bottom line: Wait and see. There might be options for you guys

Extremely appreciate the heads up on that site!

[L1Slayer]

Prime 1 shipping prices are not that high because they like to suck money out of their customers. It's nothing they have a big say in at the moment. That's why they try to get warehouses in the US and EU, while trying to offer cheaper shipping methods at the same time. (like economy shipping for the US)

And when it comes to taxes and customs, these are getting charged by ones own country and have nothing to do with the manufacturer.

I really do hope we see more and cheaper ways to get ours hands on P1s. Especially the poor australian peps suffer hard.

[Spect3r]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

Prime 1 shipping prices are not that high because they like to suck money out of their customers. It's nothing they have a big say in at the moment.

LOL
So the others can make way cheaper but they cant?
Please!!!

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by Spect3r

LOL
So the others can make way cheaper but they cant?
Please!!!

What others? Are you referring to companies sitting elsewhere in the world? Because that would make 0 sense, since shipping costs are not just a matter of distance, size and weight, but also about the individual countries and their trade agreements and of course the delivery services themselves.
CoolProps would be another japanese manufacturer that is similar to Prime 1.
They don't ship oversees at all. You have to go through another distributer to get their stuff. They don't even have an english translation for their website.

Prime 1, like any other business, makes the most money through their own website. So promoting it, like they do with some store exclusives, makes pretty much sense. What doesn't make sense is, to accuse them of charging ridiculous amounts of money (at least for some statues, especially heavy and multi-boxed ones) from oversees customers on purpose.
That would be totally counter productive for them.
If they would do that on purpose, why the hell should they even bother with economy shipping for the US and setting up various warehouses then?
Besides that, they also sell their stuff via HEO to EU retailers where you get all P1 pieces quiet a bit cheaper compared to a direct order through them, while they suffer a profit cut with two different companies.
Example: I would pay 1350€ + around 40-50€ shipping if I order the XE Suit Batman within the EU. Ordering from P1 would costs me 1700€.

Or take another example: XM from Singapur.
They charge 1095SGD (which is like 700€ or 800$) for their 1:4 Shogun Batman. Half of that even in Asia!
Their newest Deathstroke is far smaller compared to the Shogun Batman, but still costs like 300€ / 350$ shipping.
Luckily, we have an official distributor of their stuff here in Germany, so can get their stuff for reasonable prices. Much like using a distributor for P1.

Prime 1 isn't the only one that is struggling with this issue. Keep in mind: They are not as big as Sideshow. Hell, they started out in 2012, with their first statue being released in 2014. They can't snap a finger and get things done like they want to.

Still:
People wanted to place oversee orders directly through them - they made it happen
People wanted cheaper shipping prices - Prime 1 is working on it, with US eco being the first step
People wanted US/EU warehouses - Prime 1 is working on it. (But I have my doubts about an EU one being profitable for them, unless they partner up with someone)

I know I sound like a hardcore fanboy at this point. But that company has done a lot for collectors and the industry in general. So seeing "unfair" arguments made against them makes me a bit pissed.
If there is proof they are doing something wrong, I have no problem with criticising them. As I did with their variant policy.
But until then, they have made extremely good business decisions so far, as one can see with their stellar success, that I give them the benefit of the doubt right now.

[Spect3r]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

What others? Are you referring to companies sitting elsewhere in the world? Because that would make 0 sense, since shipping costs are not just a matter of distance, size and weight, but also about the individual countries and their trade agreements and of course the delivery services themselves.
CoolProps would be another japanese manufacturer that is similar to Prime 1.
They don't ship oversees at all. You have to go through another distributer to get their stuff. They don't even have an english translation for their website.

Prime 1, like any other business, makes the most money through their own website. So promoting it, like they do with some store exclusives, makes pretty much sense. What doesn't make sense is, to accuse them of charging ridiculous amounts of money (at least for some statues, especially heavy and multi-boxed ones) from oversees customers on purpose.
That would be totally counter productive for them.
If they would do that on purpose, why the hell should they even bother with economy shipping for the US and setting up various warehouses then?
Besides that, they also sell their stuff via HEO to EU retailers where you get all P1 pieces quiet a bit cheaper compared to a direct order through them, while they suffer a profit cut with two different companies.
Example: I would pay 1350€ + around 40-50€ shipping if I order the XE Suit Batman within the EU. Ordering from P1 would costs me 1700€.

Or take another example: XM from Singapur.
They charge 1095SGD (which is like 700€ or 800$) for their 1:4 Shogun Batman. Half of that even in Asia!
Their newest Deathstroke is far smaller compared to the Shogun Batman, but still costs like 300€ / 350$ shipping.
Luckily, we have an official distributor of their stuff here in Germany, so can get their stuff for reasonable prices. Much like using a distributor for P1.

Prime 1 isn't the only one that is struggling with this issue. Keep in mind: They are not as big as Sideshow. Hell, they started out in 2012, with their first statue being released in 2014. They can't snap a finger and get things done like they want to.

Still:
People wanted to place oversee orders directly through them - they made it happen
People wanted cheaper shipping prices - Prime 1 is working on it, with US eco being the first step
People wanted US/EU warehouses - Prime 1 is working on it. (But I have my doubts about an EU one being profitable for them, unless they partner up with someone)

I know I sound like a hardcore fanboy at this point. But that company has done a lot for collectors and the industry in general. So seeing "unfair" arguments made against them makes me a bit pissed.
If there is proof they are doing something wrong, I have no problem with criticising them. As I did with their variant policy.
But until then, they have made extremely good business decisions so far, as one can see with their stellar success, that I give them the benefit of the doubt right now.

Too long, didnt read after the 1st paragraph.

Have you shipped 10, 20, 30kg?
Because due to my profession, i have received and shipped from/to every where around the world and can tell you that no company has even got close to this shipping costs and i am talking from Europe, to South America, to Asia, to North America, hell, even Africa.

Do not make excuses for them.

Is not the 1st time you "act friendly" towards big companies (amazon and the sekiro steelbook...), i dont care about that, to each its own, however, do NOT try to justify what has no explanation.

Edit:

Just as an example, you can get the Dark Souls Trilogy LE, that weights a lot and has a considerable size, for 71.42€. Tracked, insured and delivered in 3 days from Japan to any EU country.
Now, i do know the statue will be heavier and the package bigger, but almost 10x more expensive? Not a chance in the world.
I am not saying they take part of the shipping costs for them, but that they could and should get cheaper alternatives, of that, i have no doubts

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by Spect3r

Too long, didnt read after the 1st paragraph.

Have you shipped 10, 20, 30kg?
Because due to my profession, i have received and shipped from/to every where around the world and can tell you that no company has even got close to this shipping costs and i am talking from Europe, to South America, to Asia, to North America, hell, even Africa.

Can't say it's my profession, but the cheapest method I found so far is not under 140€ to Japan. (about 1:4 sclae, up to 20kg, without full ensurance)
Compared to my 1:4 I ordered directly from P1, 120$ shipping doesn't seem totally unreasonable.
I paid for my two 1:3 pieces from Sideshow 110$ and 140$.
And another example: A 1:3 P1 Statue I'm eventually buying from a retailer within the EU is quoted to be 40-60€ (depending on if it's one or two boxes) and that's basically just to drag it over the border.
And for even more, see my comment about XM before.

Originally Posted by Spect3r

Do not make excuses for them.

I do not make excuses for them, I try to stay neutral and find reasonable arguments based on the information we have. (While not being part of the industry)
Hench my post, you didn't read.

Originally Posted by Spect3r

Is not the 1st time you "act friendly" towards big companies (amazon and the sekiro steelbook...), i dont care about that, to each its own, however, do NOT try to justify what has no explanation.

I won't argue about what I did with amazon, I'll leave that for you decide.
But I'm not allowed to justify the unexplained, while it's okay to bash it?
That's the reason why I appear so pro company. People tend to simply jump onto rage trains without even trying to see if there might be a reason.

Originally Posted by Spect3r

Edit:

Just as an example, you can get the Dark Souls Trilogy LE, that weights a lot and has a considerable size, for 71.42€. Tracked, insured and delivered in 3 days from Japan to any EU country.
Now, i do know the statue will be heavier and the package bigger, but almost 10x more expensive? Not a chance in the world.

See my comment on the first quote.
About a 10x more expensive piece, which you refer to, would probably be something like Lobo. And that piece is expected to come in 3 or even more(!) boxes and weights over 30Kg.
(Not saying Lobos shipping cost is justified, but the reason on why it's so high, is unclear and certainly not something P1 wants)
With that being said, I would guess the statues of GoW and DMC will ship for around 120$-180$.

Originally Posted by Spect3r

I am not saying they take part of the shipping costs for them, but that they could and should get cheaper alternatives, of that, i have no doubts

And as I in my post before, that is exactly what they are trying to do.
Economy Shipping for the US was the first step and it's vastly more cheaper. EU and US warehouses are suppose to come as well. So what else are they suppose to do?

I simply dislike it, when people just jump the ship without trying to figure out why someone would act as they do. Why would P1 implement so heavy shipping costs, when the only thing it does is restricting people from buying from them?
Until I have a good reason to think otherwise, I'll stay neutral.

[flatout]

Spect3r's point is 100% valid. If the companies that re-sell PRIME 1 Statues can give a better price then the direct price from PRIME 1 shipping or item should be easily less then the retailer who is buying them and re-selling them.

I personally see this as an easy and obvious thing.

[Spect3r]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

Can't say it's my profession, but the cheapest method I found so far is not under 140€ to Japan. (about 1:4 sclae, up to 20kg, without full ensurance)
Compared to my 1:4 I ordered directly from P1, 120$ shipping doesn't seem totally unreasonable.
I paid for my two 1:3 pieces from Sideshow 110$ and 140$.
And another example: A 1:3 P1 Statue I'm eventually buying from a retailer within the EU is quoted to be 40-60€ (depending on if it's one or two boxes) and that's basically just to drag it over the border.
And for even more, see my comment about XM before.

You are checking prices for general public, companies have contracts, get way cheaper prices because of the amount they send.

Also, thats to Europe that is a much longer travel than from Japan to Canada (from where Mike is and all this $500 talk comes from)

I do not make excuses for them, I try to stay neutral and find reasonable arguments based on the information we have. (While not being part of the industry)
Hench my post, you didn't read.

I read it now (sorry, was at work and cant stop reading/replying for many minutes at a time.
Thus values from P1 are insane, sorry to say.

I won't argue about what I did with amazon, I'll leave that for you decide.
But I'm not allowed to justify the unexplained, while it's okay to bash it?
That's the reason why I appear so pro company. People tend to simply jump onto rage trains without even trying to see if there might be a reason.

Amazon is a cancer in the world, with their book banning and all, so i am sorry if i find it hard to have the slightest appreciation for them.
You are allowed to try to justify it but if is unexplainable then how can you?

See my comment on the first quote.
About a 10x more expensive piece, which you refer to, would probably be something like Lobo. And that piece is expected to come in 3 or even more(!) boxes and weights over 30Kg.
(Not saying Lobos shipping cost is justified, but the reason on why it's so high, is unclear and certainly not something P1 wants)
With that being said, I would guess the statues of GoW and DMC will ship for around 120$-180$.

No, i am talking about the 1/3 piece they were charging $500 to ship it to Canada, thats where all this talk comes from

And as I in my post before, that is exactly what they are trying to do.
Economy Shipping for the US was the first step and it's vastly more cheaper. EU and US warehouses are suppose to come as well. So what else are they suppose to do?

They are not in the business for the past year or 2, they should have it figured it out by now, hell, just look at what companies like Nin Nin Game has, is not rocket science

I simply dislike it, when people just jump the ship without trying to figure out why someone would act as they do. Why would P1 implement so heavy shipping costs, when the only thing it does is restricting people from buying from them?
Until I have a good reason to think otherwise, I'll stay neutral.

I am not jumping ship, i am stating the obvious
How the hell can other companies do it and they after all this time, havent yet?
Specially, if resellers of their products can do it, how the hell dont they manage to?