Statues & Figures Thread - Any & All Game Related

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by Spect3r

You are checking prices for general public, companies have contracts, get way cheaper prices because of the amount they send.

Also, thats to Europe that is a much longer travel than from Japan to Canada (from where Mike is and all this $500 talk comes from)

Fair point on that. Canada and Australia seem to have insane quotes. As for why is beyond me. All I'm saying is, it's hardly on purpose.

Originally Posted by Spect3r

I read it now (sorry, was at work and cant stop reading/replying for many minutes at a time.
Thus values from P1 are insane, sorry to say.

No problem. And you are right on it being insane. So are the shipping prices in general. (including XM and Sideshow)

Originally Posted by Spect3r

Amazon is a cancer in the world, with their book banning and all, so i am sorry if i find it hard to have the slightest appreciation for them.
You are allowed to try to justify it but if is unexplainable then how can you?

As I said in the respective thread, I understand your view and I largely share it. But it contains many people that work their ass off and like the saying goes: "shit is always falling down".
I guess, we just have different viewing angles on this, but overall I agree that Amazon is a real cancer.

Originally Posted by Spect3r

They are not in the business for the past year or 2, they should have it figured it out by now, hell, just look at what companies like Nin Nin Game has, is not rocket science

To be honest, I don't know Nin Nin Games, but they look like a bigger retailer, selling all kinds of stuff. My best guess on this is, that they have way more quota with better conditions.
Edit: Nin Nin quotes me 215€ for a 1:4 P1 statue. And another one for 65€.
Don't know what to make out of that.

Originally Posted by Spect3r

I am not jumping ship, i am stating the obvious
How the hell can other companies do it and they after all this time, havent yet?
Specially, if resellers of their products can do it, how the hell dont they manage to?

Probably because resellers get them delivered in larger quantities.
Sideshow for example gets their stock via ship oversees. (That's also the reason why it takes 1-2 Months longer until retailers get their stock)
Edit: Their new US economy shipping is working similar afaik. Getting your order shipped out with various different other items from other companies via ship. Takes 1-2 Months, but costs only half and sometimes even less.

I think at this point we can agree on shipping prices being very high (too high) more often then not.
The reason why I went into this topic "more in depth" is just that some comments look like accusations, while I cannot really believe P1 would try to rip their customers off this way. They could come up with better methods. The last few comments made it pretty clear that no one is willing to buy, unless shipping prices go down. And I can admit, maybe Prime 1 can do better, but as I said before they seem to try. In the end these prices are sure as hell not earning them more money.

[Spect3r]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

To be honest, I don't know Nin Nin Games, but they look like a bigger retailer, selling all kinds of stuff. My best guess on this is, that they have way more quota with better conditions.
Edit: Nin Nin quotes me 215€ for a 1:4 P1 statue. And another one for 65€.
Don't know what to make out of that.

If i am to be honest I dont buy much from them, but for the bigger stuff that i checked their shipping prices were not as outrageous as the ones we been discussing.

Also, i have got an engine block (a full engine block for a car) from USA last year, that weighs way, way more than these statues and we paid around 700€ but just the case where it came weighs almost as much as any of these statues, granted is from USA and not Japan, but is a god damn engine block!

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by Spect3r

Also, i have got an engine block (a full engine block for a car) from USA last year, that weighs way, way more than these statues and we paid around 700€ but just the case where it came weighs almost as much as any of these statues, granted is from USA and not Japan, but is a god damn engine block!

There are probably a few instances where you can get bigger and more expensive stuff for less. But I have no clue on why. Most likely because there is more to handling shipments then we know. Like collective deliveries. Do you remember how fast the delivery was?

But damn man, 700€. I understand why, but seeing that quote on paper would get me pale like ghost. Totally understandable that you question the 600$ for P1 Lobo, when you can get an engine block instead.

[Spect3r]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

There are probably a few instances where you can get bigger and more expensive stuff for less. But I have no clue on why. Most likely because there is more to handling shipments then we know. Like collective deliveries. Do you remember how fast the delivery was?

But damn man, 700€. I understand why, but seeing that quote on paper would get me pale like ghost. Totally understandable that you question the 600$ for P1 Lobo, when you can get an engine block instead.

Well, in all fairness it took some weeks to arrive, i believe it will be much faster shipping in the statues lol

[flatout]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

Probably because resellers get them delivered in larger quantities.
Sideshow for example gets their stock via ship oversees.

Sorry to butt in but I noticed you are missing a fundamental point to all of this.

Re-sellers do get bulk shipping deals but to their own storage factories and THEN they must ship them again when people order them and they still find a way to offer decent shipping cost AND make a profit even with the extra cost of the bulk shipping to their warehouses.

Basically buying direct from PRIME 1 cuts out the middle man and the additional bulk order shipping costs as well as the re-seller profit margin yet they still cannot offer a similar price from PRIME 1 (the original makers of the statue).

Does that make more sense? I could do a long form equation that shows it better if you still do not know what we mean but the gist is ordering from PRIME 1 cuts out multiple parts of the cost yet still costs more somehow.

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by Spect3r

Well, in all fairness it took some weeks to arrive, i believe it will be much faster shipping in the statues lol

In that case, I would assume it was sent via ship. That could explain why it's was relatively "cheap" compared to Lobos quote.
Still, lets hope P1 can get their prices down, or at least offer their stuff to more retailers around the world!

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by flatout

Sorry to butt in but I noticed you are missing a fundamental point to all of this.

Re-sellers do get bulk shipping deals but to their own storage factories and THEN they must ship them again when people order them and they still find a way to offer decent shipping cost AND make a profit even with the extra cost of the bulk shipping to their warehouses.

Basically buying direct from PRIME 1 cuts out the middle man and the additional bulk order shipping costs as well as the re-seller profit margin yet they still cannot offer a similar price from PRIME 1 (the original makers of the statue).

Does that make more sense? I could do a long form equation that shows it better if you still do not know what we mean but the gist is ordering from PRIME 1 cuts out multiple parts of the cost yet still costs more somehow.

The only thing that is so damn expensive about Prime 1 is their "express" shipping method, nothing else.
That's why they just recently introduced economy shipping to the US and are working on more options for various other parts of the world.
(Hardcore example Lobo: Normal is 864$ and economy is 369$ or Hush Ivy is normal 512$ and with economy 190$, all to the US)

Now, you could argue that they could pay a part of those shipping costs themselves, since they do not have a middle man, but I'm not sure how effective that would be for them. (On the other hand, who says they aren't doing so already )
When shipping costs are like 500$, what is the point on opting in your own 100$ to lower it to 400$? It's still way too much and wouldn't convince many people. Besides, you then again miss your targeted profit share.

They simply have to find better ways to get their statues out cheaper.

[flatout]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

The only thing that is so damn expensive about Prime 1 is their "express" shipping method, nothing else.

Oh... so they offer a fair low price for regular/economy or even Priority shipping? From the few people who talked about it I was under the impression that it was more expensive to get one shipped direct from PRIME 1 then re-sellers like Sideshow who buy from PRIME 1 direct and then re-sell and re-ship themselves.

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by flatout

Oh... so they offer a fair low price for regular/economy or even Priority shipping? From the few people who talked about it I was under the impression that it was more expensive to get one shipped direct from PRIME 1 then re-sellers like Sideshow who buy from PRIME 1 direct and then re-sell and re-ship themselves.

It depends. I would leave Sideshow out at this point, because they are so big, they get special treatment/conditions. But for other smaller retailers it comes down to about the same if you choose the new economy shipping.
If I would order Lobo locally I would pay around 2400€ + ~100€ shipping (due to 3-4 boxes). From Prime 1 it's about 2540€ with taxes and custom. (but that's a bit hands and feets here since the P1 price is for the US and my local price is within the EU. P1 might be the cheaper option once we get the same for the EU)
So I think it might be a very close call on where you can get it a bit cheaper and I would always advice to compare first. (you get a quote from P1 if you register an account and go to the checkout with a statue in your basket. Even if it's a PO)

The only thing that may shift the favor towards P1 completely is that they offer 5% reward points, much like sideshow.

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