Devil's Kiss Vigor Bottle now available

[Boinkzoink]

Originally Posted by SwiftDeath

Thanks for coming on here to comment

Who is responsible for the price setting?

Was it a general team decision then to start pricing the signature limited editions at such an incredible mark-up?

I only own one or two of the limited prints but already feel such a fatigue in collecting them

Having Ken sign pretty much every item you guys release to create a more expensive version of that item wouldn't be so bad if the markup wasn't so very very much

I mean you have greater than a 70% mark-up on an already 350 USD item

Does that not seem high to you?

Seeing the price differentials really turns me off from buying things in the store

I just feel it's such a lazy and uncreative way to make a more limited edition but I suppose that's my opinion

Is there a "Like" button somewhere? I agree with Swiftdeath. Having so many autographed items available just seemed to diminish the value of his signature..

My suggestion would be to include some subtle differences between the Limited and Normal editions. That will really help justify the costly mark-up I think.

[OneLetter]

Originally Posted by Boinkzoink

Also, will the IG store consider cheaper alternatives for shipping internationally? The shipping charges to Singapore costs me USD$150+ for the DC bottle, which frankly, is kind of crippling..

Thank you for your time!

This is something that we're always trying to reduce, because I feel bad about how high they can be sometimes. To be fair though, our shipping costs cover all VAT/Customs/hidden fees, so this way, it just arrives at your door and there's no fuss.

As you may have seen, a few months ago we got shipping down to just $1.99 for the US, and that also brought reduced shipping prices to the rest of the world. We're hoping to bring them down even more in the future, but it's quite the task since each individual country has to be considered.

Originally Posted by bazzaffc

Oh that's interesting, any clues you can give us to what you might be working on?

As you are here as well do you have any idea why the bucking bronco poster was limited to 300 and now just appears to be a free run without any mention??

Thanks for answering some of the questions!!

No clues just yet, but hopefully I can give you all a sneak peek in the future.

I actually saw the complaints about the Bucking Bronco poster on here a few weeks ago and looked into it. Somehow, the part of the description detailing it was limited to 300 was removed. I checked on our inventory, and there are still some in the warehouse, and we should have the updated description back up in the store soon. These are still the same initial run of 300, and we will not be doing a second run once those 300 are gone.

Originally Posted by SwiftDeath

Thanks for coming on here to comment

Who is responsible for the price setting?

Was it a general team decision then to start pricing the signature limited editions at such an incredible mark-up?

I only own one or two of the limited prints but already feel such a fatigue in collecting them

Having Ken sign pretty much every item you guys release to create a more expensive version of that item wouldn't be so bad if the markup wasn't so very very much

I mean you have greater than a 70% mark-up on an already 350 USD item

Does that not seem high to you?

Seeing the price differentials really turns me off from buying things in the store

I just feel it's such a lazy and uncreative way to make a more limited edition but I suppose that's my opinion

First off, thank you for the feedback. Signed items are still somewhat new to us. Currently, our newest items have been based around demand, since we've had a lot of fans asking specifically for these items, and asking for more signed merchandise. We also know not everyone wants a signature, or wants to pay for it, which is why our recent items come in both varieties.

As I said earlier, I'm not going to comment specifically on the pricing, but I'll be sure to compile all of the feedback here and present it with regard to any new items.

Originally Posted by Boinkzoink

My suggestion would be to include some subtle differences between the Limited and Normal editions. That will really help justify the costly mark-up I think.

Isn't the signature, individual numbering, and certificate of authenticity a subtle difference? I'm not sure what sort of difference you would be looking for when it comes to a poster / print / litho / etc. Would you want a bigger size? Different cropping?

[vhal_x]

Wow, I didn't realise that your shipping costs covered customs fees, that's great! I avoid a lot of international stores through fear of customs charges, so that's great to know xx

[bazzaffc]

Originally Posted by OneLetter

No clues just yet, but hopefully I can give you all a sneak peek in the future.

I actually saw the complaints about the Bucking Bronco poster on here a few weeks ago and looked into it. Somehow, the part of the description detailing it was limited to 300 was removed. I checked on our inventory, and there are still some in the warehouse, and we should have the updated description back up in the store soon. These are still the same initial run of 300, and we will not be doing a second run once those 300 are gone.

That's great to hear would have been a shame if more were just produced, I have just checked the website and it still doesn't have the limited to 300 just so you are aware!

I personally don't mind the signed items yes they are a lot more expensive but I think its the limited edition that makes it worth more ie limited to 50!

Sorry to keep with loads of questions but do you know is the plushie is limited to a certain number/run etc?

Thanks again!

[Boinkzoink]

Originally Posted by OneLetter

Isn't the signature, individual numbering, and certificate of authenticity a subtle difference? I'm not sure what sort of difference you would be looking for when it comes to a poster / print / litho / etc. Would you want a bigger size? Different cropping?

Appreciate your prompt replies, and your help to clarify so many doubts! Its reassuring to know that the Bronco posters are not simply a re-run, and that your shipping prices do include custom charges. Power to IG Store for those!

About the subtle differences, it can be something as minor as small paintjob differences for larger scale models, or maybe different materials used for the Limited Edition posters and screenprints. I think different sizes for the 2nd runs will be good to differentiate between the editions too.

Anyway,these are just some ideas or suggestions for future items, so that the Limited Edition stuff aren't just restricted to either "Autographed" or "Non-Autographed".

Thank you once again for answering our doubts!

[amb6883]

Originally Posted by OneLetter

Isn't the signature, individual numbering, and certificate of authenticity a subtle difference? I'm not sure what sort of difference you would be looking for when it comes to a poster / print / litho / etc.

Not really. It just a signed print that you are charging a lot more for.

Originally Posted by OneLetter

Would you want a bigger size? Different cropping?

At the very least, but ideally the image would not be released in any other format and would help justify the price increase. I am sure that you guys have plenty of other art you could release as open editions and keep the signed prints as limited editions.

Thanks for taking the time to address some of our concerns.

[Madigan]

OneLetter, since you are the community manager for irrational games, remember to send a pm to the admin so he changes the color of your nick and other members can identify you as a vip and not just a regular user.

http://collectorsedition.org/forums/member.php?u=3

[OneLetter]

Originally Posted by bazzaffc

Sorry to keep with loads of questions but do you know is the plushie is limited to a certain number/run etc?

Thanks again!

It's not really limited, since the demand for it was so high, but that's why we started with pre-orders early on. I have one sitting on my desk next to me (literally the first one off of the production line), and I'm super impressed with the results.

We always try to put "Limited" in the description if we have no plans to do another run so as not to deceive.

Originally Posted by Boinkzoink

*Suggestions here*

Thanks for the feedback, I'll certainly add those to my list.

Originally Posted by amb6883

*Suggestions here*

As with above, thanks for the feedback. It's great to hear this from all of you, and we'll certainly look into these suggestions moving forward.

Originally Posted by Madigan

OneLetter, since you are the community manager for irrational games, remember to send a pm to the admin so he changes the color of your nick and other members can identify you as a vip and not just a regular user.

http://collectorsedition.org/forums/member.php?u=3

I didn't know this was a thing, but I'll certainly reach out, even though I don't consider myself a VIP at all.

[blingaling]

I started writing this long post about signature pricing and secondary markets but then I thought; "what the heck do I know?" and deleted it. I do know that I won't personally be buying anymore signed items at this markup.

Originally Posted by OneLetter

I actually saw the complaints about the Bucking Bronco poster on here a few weeks ago and looked into it. Somehow, the part of the description detailing it was limited to 300 was removed. I checked on our inventory, and there are still some in the warehouse, and we should have the updated description back up in the store soon. These are still the same initial run of 300, and we will not be doing a second run once those 300 are gone.

Haha yeah that was mostly me, good to know it was just an issue of semantics. It's a great print.
Incidentally, you may just want to open a new thread for general comments/suggestions as this one has kind of gone off the rails.

At this price point I would buy every last vigor bottle that you guys can crank out at this level of quality.

[MortalMonday]

Hey OneLetter,

Thanks for joining the community here and answering so many questions.

I want to give you my opinion of the "first edition" idea for the Devil's Kiss bottles.
Simply put, I don't like it. In fact, I hate it.

In my opinion, the vigor bottles are special collectibles that deserve to be limited to a single run. The retail prices ($350-$600 for Devil's Kiss, $500 for Murder of Crows) reflect the fact that these are special items.

What's the point of numbering the DK bottles individually out of 500, if you're just gonna keep making more? If you number them up to 500, then actually mean it and only make 500 identical pieces. If you say there are only 400 Murder of Crows bottles, then honor that commitment (and yes, Irrational did specifically say that those bottles were limited to a single run of 400 total bottles.)

If you're gonna keep making the DK bottles, then at least make the next run different somehow. Maybe make them out of PVC plastic, and sell them at a reduced cost. That way, at least the folks that bought a first run statue at least feel like they have something special.