Official limited Tomb Raider screenprints and giclees now live! - Page 31

Fox · #1 12-05-2013, 10:19 PM

Treehouse_Ryan I find it to be a controversial aspect that you guys are re-releasing the Sam Spratt Litho of Tomb Raider and Now this Re- Release is being called "Reborn" AND it is SIGNED (unlike the first). The only difference is the line at the bottom with icons...still the same art design.

As someone mentioned on facebook "Seems like poor form to sell again." Im a collector and I value the already limited edition merchandise I buy from you guys. When i buy something limited in number and you guys sell out, it fuels my addiction to collecting and I can be proud of the framed lithos on my wall. If your going to Re-release everything/some/few things you've already sold out of well...to put it nicely, this feels like a slap in the face.

I guess what Im wondering is...Is this a practice of Treehouse stores? Or to reword, is this to happen again...?

Cosmic_Link · #2 12-05-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fox

Treehouse_Ryan I find it to be a controversial aspect that you guys are re-releasing the Sam Spratt Litho of Tomb Raider and Now this Re- Release is being called "Reborn" AND it is SIGNED (unlike the first). The only difference is the line at the bottom with icons...still the same art design.

As someone mentioned on facebook "Seems like poor form to sell again." Im a collector and I value the already limited edition merchandise I buy from you guys. When i buy something limited in number and you guys sell out, it fuels my addiction to collecting and I can be proud of the framed lithos on my wall. If your going to Re-release everything/some/few things you've already sold out of well...to put it nicely, this feels like a slap in the face.

I guess what Im wondering is...Is this a practice of Treehouse stores? Or to reword, is this to happen again...?

They're doing a re-release of the Sam Spratt print, but this time it is signed?

That's not cool man! >.< Where did you see/hear this? Sorry, I don't follow social networking sites. lol

i and i · #3 12-05-2013, 10:29 PM

100 % correct. easy not done money grab

first time i'm disappointed in treehouse

nipperkipper · #4 12-05-2013, 10:30 PM

http://www.tombraiderstore.com/reborn-lithograph.html

Treehouse_Ryan · #5 12-05-2013, 10:50 PM

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We're selling the giclee in the store, but as was talked about elsewhere, the original plan was to have them be exclusive to the art shows and do a litho on the store a little later. This means we have one of each, printed off the same art....

Jed (our CEO) liked the giclee better. Chris (our head artist) liked the litho better. I was kind of torn.

The litho has better saturation, I think, but the blacks are darker/better on the giclee.

The overall fidelity of the giclee strikes me as being a bit finer.

The litho is full-bleed and has a glossier finish to the paper (and is signed), but the giclee is undeniably nice. You guys were clamoring for the giclee, so I'm guessing we made the right choice, ultimately, but I'm not totally sure....

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The Spratt lithos are signed, but we don't know what we're doing with them now. The Spratt giclees are not signed, but will be numbered (out of 120 for NY and SF).

We would never intentionally reprint the same piece of art or do a follow-up edition. We've released some Mass Effect lithos in small, unnumbered versions so as to be distinct from their limited counterparts, and we did a color variant of the Claptrap screenprint (which I totally stand behind as a valid release).

The reason this happened is because the lithos were printed (and signed) almost a year ago. The art show where the giclees were to be sold never happened, so we put them online and sat on the lithos. I guess someone decided it had been long enough and the format was different enough from the original so as to be a distinct thing (sort of like the way the first Fallout and Skyrim lithos got re-used for the metal prints, but obviously less expensively different...).

I'm not thrilled at how this was handled, but I understand the need to recoup the money spent on the lithos, and there has been a lot of demand for that art since it sold out so quickly. There is no way anyone will be able to see each of these and not know them apart from each other, so they are still distinctly different pieces. I don't know if that's enough of a difference to really get behind this move, but that's the whole story.

Fox · #6 12-05-2013, 10:39 PM

I saw it on facebook. Agreed, very disappointing. Why Re-release this one specifically?

Fox · #7 12-05-2013, 11:09 PM

Thank you for your super fast response. Really appreciated.

As far as the mass effect re-releases. There was big difference. Size of the prints.

I remember reading something about giclee vs litho.
And I realize im saying But here lol. I see the differences between the two But its the same image (with a different shade) being re-released in the same size, pretty much the same number being released. Major difference being Signed.

You mentioned "there has been a lot of demand for that art since it sold out so quickly."
Will there be a Re-releasing of everything else that sold out fast and has a lot of demand?

I do agree, I think it was handled wrong. Kinda deceiving. Planned? to sell unsigned first then selling the signed later. This must have been known to bring controversy.

Redmagster · #8 12-05-2013, 11:35 PM

It's a hard one this one as there is a whole back story so this is in no way a decision to reprint due to a sell out and add a small difference to make it feel more honest...

Totally personal opinion but, on the whole, give me the giclee over the lithograph every time. Just my preference on quality, look, feel... Hence I'm happy still that I bought into the first release.

Of course I would prefer it was signed and, I guess, in many ways it's the biggest problem here - most of the first run art releases for TR were signed and in a way strange that those destined for the pop up stores were not signed but there is something special still about them being very limited numbers and Giclees and set aside for events that got shelved.

Final word of caution I'd view it as a very cynical move if other oop pieces started being rerun with a slight variation - purely milking the cow - but this one wasn't - it was prerun....

Guess it would have been preferable to have released these right alongside the others in an honest and upfront way and let the collectors choose at that point...

Maybe this discussion wouldn't been happening then - we'd have just agonised over which to pick at the time and prob ended up with both...

comaamen86 · #9 12-05-2013, 11:37 PM

woah woah woah so you dont respond to me throwing sticks at your window and watching from trees, but you have time for lithos and trees

SwiftDeath · #10 12-05-2013, 11:52 PM

I am actually a fairly critical person when it comes to art and how limited art is handled but this doesn't bother me overly much so long as it doesn't become common practice

Ryan had mentioned and shown us the litho version of the art print when the original released so I take his word when he says the whole set had existed at that time

I am actually ok with this but again it really shouldn't really happen again since the creation of both the giclee version and litho version was a fluke