Devil's Kiss Vigor Bottle now available

[blingaling]

I went ahead and got the unsigned, all else aside it really is a beautiful item.
I'm absolutely positive they will produce more if they sell out, at least we do get a minor indication that this will be so due to the "fist edition" clause in the description, as well as their history with other "sold-out" items. Honestly I would be quite happy for a re-release of the MoC bottle.

I get the feeling this pricing structure is a reaction to the super inflated prices we saw in the secondary market. Sold out? Signed? $$$! I profited off of that boom myself. Now autographs are expensive right off the bat. Nothing is ever really sold out. I think it's pretty plain that they just want to destroy that secondary market and take that money themselves.

Sucks for those on a limited budget. Sucks for those (like me) who live in the US and are never far enough away from their computers to miss a limited release item drop. Sucks worst for those who want to resell. Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying I believe what's going on with the Irrational store is specifically targeting resellers.

After the truly awful feedback over the signed book can you blame them?

[vhal_x]

Wow, the price hike between signed and unsigned is ridiculous!

Surely the unsigned ones should have a COA too? Can anyone confirm? xx

[bazzaffc]

Am tempted but $350 plus shipping is a big chunk of money specially with GTA and Watchdog special editions out soon plus dont forget the new consoles!

Any idea how much the MOC bottle cost when it was in store?

[vhal_x]

I think MOC was about the same price, maybe $400. Not 100% sure though xx

[MortalMonday]

I hope they at least make the second edition distinct. Maybe the second edition won't be of the same high quality?

Anyway, in for one unsigned bottle. She looks great.

[MortalMonday]

Originally Posted by vhal_x

I think MOC was about the same price, maybe $400. Not 100% sure though xx

MoC was $500. MoC was also limited to 400 total pieces; so they upped the edition size by 100 for the DK as well.

[Mike1888]

Originally Posted by blingaling

I went ahead and got the unsigned, all else aside it really is a beautiful item.
I'm absolutely positive they will produce more if they sell out, at least we do get a minor indication that this will be so due to the "fist edition" clause in the description, as well as their history with other "sold-out" items. Honestly I would be quite happy for a re-release of the MoC bottle.

I get the feeling this pricing structure is a reaction to the super inflated prices we saw in the secondary market. Sold out? Signed? $$$! I profited off of that boom myself. Now autographs are expensive right off the bat. Nothing is ever really sold out. I think it's pretty plain that they just want to destroy that secondary market and take that money themselves.

Sucks for those on a limited budget. Sucks for those (like me) who live in the US and are never far enough away from their computers to miss a limited release item drop. Sucks worst for those who want to resell. Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying I believe what's going on with the Irrational store is specifically targeting resellers.

They can't "take that money for themselves." The fact that something is sold out is what makes it worth those amounts, not the signature itself.

Autographs have always been expensive, they're just seeing how far they can go and still get people to buy.

After the truly awful feedback over the signed book can you blame them?

Not sure what you mean.

[blingaling]

Originally Posted by Mike1888

They can't "take that money for themselves." The fact that something is sold out is what makes it worth those amounts, not the signature itself.

If they can sell at these prices, they are quite obviously worth these amounts. If they increase their markup to aftermarket level prices how is this not taking the money for themselves? It's not a semantic argument, it's about cutting out the middleman and charging the premium at the onset.

Originally Posted by Mike1888

Not sure what you mean.

See this thread: http://collectorsedition.org/forums/...ad.php?t=11626

[SwiftDeath]

Originally Posted by blingaling

If they can sell at these prices, they are quite obviously worth these amounts. If they increase their markup to aftermarket level prices how is this not taking the money for themselves? It's not a semantic argument, it's about cutting out the middleman and charging the premium at the onset.

I think Mike is implying that resellers will still be there and jack up the prices accordingly

See the 3 signed lithos

Retail prices for that were expensive but secondary market just tripled the price

[blingaling]

Originally Posted by SwiftDeath

I think Mike is implying that resellers will still be there and jack up the prices accordingly

See the 3 signed lithos

Retail prices for that were expensive but secondary market just tripled the price

Yah I get that but this bubble has burst. Look at the signed Fitzroy prints. Going nowhere. If a 600$ price tag on this bottle burns a guy who bought 3 for 1800$ looking to double their money... well that's just fine

Anyway, it's no big deal to me. I could most assuredly be very wrong. I do enjoy these discussions though