Fake steelbooks

[Spect3r]

Originally Posted by Seesternmann

Although I like the fact that by mass reporting it seems that we can achieve something, I doubt that it will stop resellers to put up their auctions with false advertisement on ebay.

Cosmic already asked that, but has anyone sent an email to Scanavo? I think they're the only ones who can do something about those fake steelbooks.

The question is, do we want all Fantasyboxes to disappear?
As I said earlier, I do like some of their designs. Especially for games, which never got an official release of a steelbook. So we have at least some options to get steelcases for those games. And now that we know of those fake steelbooks, we hopefully can avoid them when buying steels on ebay etc.

On the other hand, I hate those fake ones with the same design as the original steelbooks and to me it's clear plagiarism.

What do you guys think about that?

There are other people making custom steelbooks for years (Chinese people included, so no one thinks this is something related to race/nationality), that i do not want them to disappear.
These guys on the other hand are actively deceiving people.
I do not care how good their original work is, after the moment they started dealing with forgeries they lost any goodwill i have towards people who makes custom work..

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by Spect3r

There are other people making custom steelbooks for years (Chinese people included, so no one thinks this is something related to race/nationality), that i do not want them to disappear.
These guys on the other hand are actively deceiving people.
I do not care how good their original work is, after the moment they started dealing with forgeries they lost any goodwill i have towards people who makes custom work..

Couldn't have said it any better.

[gamecollector_nz]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

I would like them to disappear, yes. If we don't have some integrity on this, they will get bigger, flood the market, devalue some original designs and put a soure note onto our hobby.
And I doubt scanavo can do something about it. Fantasybok is most likely from China, so they can do what ever they want.
As bitter as it may sound, but we collectors are the best bet this hobby has.
I for one am not going to buy from them. No matter how many people will do or how great their steels may look. I just move on, not looking back.

Fantasybox made in China but their boss is living in Germany, that's why so many fakes ones appeared in there

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by gamecollector_nz

Fantasybox made in China but their boss is living in Germany, that's why so many fakes ones appeared in there

Interesting! But I doubt that will change anything. Sadly.

[ArtisticMercury]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

I would like them to disappear, yes. If we don't have some integrity on this, they will get bigger, flood the market, devalue some original designs and put a soure note onto our hobby.
And I doubt scanavo can do something about it. Fantasybok is most likely from China, so they can do what ever they want.
As bitter as it may sound, but we collectors are the best bet this hobby has.
I for one am not going to buy from them. No matter how many people will do or how great their steels may look. I just move on, not looking back.

I’m from China, and I can confirm these fake(I refuse to call these fake custom) are from China. This news was shocking in China as well since this is the first time so many fake steelbooks floods the market in such scale, my fellow collectors there warned me about these fakes. And the so called Germany boss is just another Chinese who resides there in German. So if this violates German law, can we maybe have someone in German tip off the police and get this person arrested maybe?


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[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by ArtisticMercury

I’m from China, and I can confirm these fake(I refuse to call these fake custom) are from China. This news was shocking in China as well since this is the first time so many fake steelbooks floods the market in such scale, my fellow collectors there warned me about these fakes. And the so called Germany boss is just another Chinese who resides there in German. So if this violates German law, can we maybe have someone in German tip off the police and get this person arrested maybe?


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I'm not really sure about the situation, but I doubt his company is registered in germany.
He probably lives and sells in germany, but the company "operates" from somewhere else. Cyprus or something are common for this stuff.
He would be pretty stupid otherwise.

Tipping off the police is not an option. You need solid proof in order to do that and you probably also need someone to drag him to curt. It's on Scanavo to do that.

[Cosmic_Link]

Are we talking about this guy?

Have been keeping an eye on these dodgy "steelbooks" and it's sad to see how much they are selling for and how many unsuspecting people are buying these. I already know what the answer is and have messaged him and called him out on it as well as reported all of his listings. He has sent me message with an image of an original steelbook open with the steelbook branding and has assured me that it is genuine. Obviously it's not and I have no intention of purchasing from him and am just wasting his time. I have requested a photo of said steelbook next to today's newspaper. Let's see if he's willing to play. Without any prompt from me he's already offered to drop the price to €90. This is a photo that he has sent me which should be enough to "Verify" that what he is selling is genuine, so if people are buying steelbooks online, be forever vigilant.




This is the listing that I've been querying.

The fact that all of his listings state "Without Guarantee & Return !!! PRIVATE SALE" should also throw red flags.

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by Cosmic_Link

Are we talking about this guy?

Have been keeping an eye on these dodgy "steelbooks" and it's sad to see how much they are selling for and how many unsuspecting people are buying these. I already know what the answer is and have messaged him and called him out on it as well as reported all of his listings. He has sent me message with an image of an original steelbook open with the steelbook branding and has assured me that it is genuine. Obviously it's not and I have no intention of purchasing from him and am just wasting his time. I have requested a photo of said steelbook next to today's newspaper. Let's see if he's willing to play. Without any prompt from me he's already offered to drop the price to €90. This is a photo that he has sent me which should be enough to "Verify" that what he is selling is genuine, so if people are buying steelbooks online, be forever vigilant.




This is the listing that I've been querying.

The fact that all of his listings state "Without Guarantee & Return !!! PRIVATE SALE" should also throw red flags.

The last part about no guarantee & return is pretty normal. At least here in germany. Basically every private seller puts it into their listing. (doesn't do jack, but everyone thinks it's better to do so)

But the Steelbook is obviously fake. If you look at the Tlou listing, the 5th picture shows the inlay and it reads "Fantasybok". And lowering the price without you having asked for it is definetly a red flag. So yeah, he is trying to trick you.
Good thing you noticed his crap!

[SBCollectorAl]

Originally Posted by L1Slayer

The last part about no guarantee & return is pretty normal. At least here in germany. Basically every private seller puts it into their listing. (doesn't do jack, but everyone thinks it's better to do so)

But the Steelbook is obviously fake. If you look at the Tlou listing, the 5th picture shows the inlay and it reads "Fantasybok". And lowering the price without you having asked for it is definetly a red flag. So yeah, he is trying to trick you.
Good thing you noticed his crap!

I can't read "fantasybok". I read steelbook.

[L1Slayer]

Originally Posted by SBCollectorAl

I can't read "fantasybok". I read steelbook.

I tried to highlight it as best as I can.
On his auction picture you can barely see that the first letter should be an F.
You can definetly tell it's not an S.
Also: Fantasybok is one letter longer than Steelbook, which is the best way to tell them apart if it's not possible to read the inlay print.
Looking closely at said picture, you can tell it's 10 letters which is exactly the length of Fantasybok. (Steelbook only having 9)